[net.lan] More on Fiber Enet Rptrs

geoffb@nrcvax.UUCP (G. Geoffrey Baehr) (11/07/85)

Keywords:fiber repeater


	A short follow up to the net on the article I posted concerning Fiber
	Optic Repeaters for Ethernets. 

	Another vendor has come on the scene :
	Fiber Com
	Box 11966
	Roanoke, Virginia 24022-1966
	703-342-6700

	Their repeater is similar to many of the others, yet it is TEMPEST
	certified. This leads to an interesting paradox - why TEMPEST certify
	the box which is attached to an unsecured net, with non TEMPEST
	tranceivers ?? Someone must need this certification...

	Price quoted by an eager sales type was approx 895/per.

As usual, other people's experiences and recommendations are welcome. I hope
that this helps to reduce the morass of information out there to mere primeval
ooze.



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tcs@usna.UUCP (Terry Slattery <tcs@usna>) (11/11/85)

From postnews Sun Nov 10 21:47:18 1985
> 	A short follow up to the net on the article I posted concerning Fiber
> 	Optic Repeaters for Ethernets. 
> 
> 	Another vendor has come on the scene :
> 	Fiber Com

The strategies used by Fiber Com differ considerably from those used by
Codenoll and Siecor.  The FiberCom network is really a ring in which
a single uni-directional fiber connects all xcvrs into a ring.  The
maximum distance between xcvrs is something like 1 or 1.5 km (my literature
is at work).  If an xcvr fails, a relay couples the input and output
fibers.  I havn't had the pleasure of opening one up so I can't say how
it's done.

The Codenoll and Seicor products both use transmissive
star couplers at the center of a star configuration.  Codenoll's product
is totally passive.  The optical signals must be within 4db for collisions
to be detected so detailed flux budgeting must be done.  Maximum
arm to arm distance is 1.5Km with either a 4 or 8 port star available.
Seicor goes one step further in that they use an active sensor
at the star to sense collisions and then broadcast a collision signal
(increasing the probablity of sensing a collision.)

Fiber Com probably does well in point-to-point stuff and the others
in places where several buildings need to be interconnected.
I'm in the process of installing the Codenoll stuff here.  I should know
more in another couple of weeks or so.
	-tcs
	Terry Slattery	  U.S. Naval Academy	301-267-4413
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wb6rqn@yojna1.UUCP (Brian Lloyd) (11/13/85)

> 	[...] yet it is TEMPEST
> 	certified. This leads to an interesting paradox - why TEMPEST certify
> 	the box which is attached to an unsecured net, with non TEMPEST
> 	tranceivers ?? Someone must need this certification...
> 
> 	[...]
> 
> Geoffrey Baehr -  N6LXA			Network Research Corp
> 					

I have had the unfortunate experience of dealing with the TEMPEST environment.
You are allowed to operate non-TEMPEST equipment in a TEMPEST-required
environment if the building is fully shielded.  Imagine someone running an
Ethernet within a shielded room/building and wishing to connect to another
such Ethernet somewhere else, where the interconnection must pass through
a non-shielded area.  In this case it makes sense to have a TEMPEST connection
between two non-TEMPEST LANs.

Brian Lloyd
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