cms@dragon.uucp (08/08/90)
Our Fearless Moderator comments: > I think these days I'd recommend a computerized Bible rather than a > concordance, for those who have computers. > > --clh] Oh, I concur on the usefulness of an online Bible, although I currently only have King James with no Apocrypha, drat it! If I want to read the KJV Apocrypha, I have to look it up in a separate publication (hardcopy-wise). The only hardcopy KJV w/Apocrypha I've ever seen was in a catalog, pulpit edition, to the tune of $220 (sigh). So I keep them side-by-side on my bookshelf. At any rate, I followed up to comment: Whenever I use the search option on my online text, it doesn't separate them out into book-divisions, making it difficult for me to determine which section of the Bible I've retrieved this gem; I'm sure I just have lousy software. So I often resort to Eerdman's. It'd be nice to have an online concordance that would point you to passages according to various translations. I've often searched online KJV or Eerdman's (which is RSV) only to discover the passage I wanted was there but not in that translation, if you follow my frustration. -- Sincerely, Cindy Smith emory!dragon!cms [The program I use -- QuickVerse -- lets you constrain searches to a particular range of books. It does not have the Apocrypha available though, as far as I know. --clh]
ssimmons@unix.cie.rpi.edu (Stephen Simmons) (08/16/90)
[There have been a couple of comments about features on computerized Bibles. cms complained >any rate, I followed up to comment: Whenever I use the search option on my >online text, it doesn't separate them out into book-divisions, making it >difficult for me to determine which section of the Bible I've retrieved this >gem; I'm sure I just have lousy software. So I often resort to Eerdman's. --clh] Wow, it's amazing how critical we get of software until we realize what constraints others work under...The program that I use is available on most microcomputers is The Word Processor, from Bible Research Systems. I use the Mac version, and I must say, they don't seem to have a good grasp of the Macintosh interface yet. But anyway, you can: <> search the Bible or a range of verses for a word or phrase <> build an index to all the occurences in the Bible or a range of a particular "expression" This feature is very much like a online concordance. <> copy verses or parts of verses into the clipboard <> edit windows for putting together groups of verses, editing, etc. An expression is not nearly quite so powerful as Unix's regular expressions. Basically, you can enter up to 32 words/phrases and ask for all verses that contain any of those phrases or all verses that contain all of them. Some wildcarding capabilities are possible. The program is available in segments: (1) The (either KJV or NIV; both are extra; online Bible, which costs (gasp!) $199 (2) The indexor (the feature above to build an index) (3) The verse typist (I don't have access to this; it supposedly automates the process of copying verses into other programs) (4) The commentator (I don't have this either; it supposedly allows you to add your own comments to the Bible) (5) The transliterator (I don't have this either; it supposedly has the Strong's Concordance built in, which has a number associated with each word in the Bible; this number corresponds to the Hebrew or Greek word in the original text, and you can use the number to quickly look up the word in Strong's Lexicon, which may (I don't remember) be online too). I don't know how much the additional segments cost. It's fast too, as it maintains an index of the Bible too. (About 1 to 2 minutes to bulid an index for any given word or phrase, if you don't use wildcards (Mac II)). To me, this program is "indispensible." But, to be honest, there are some (in my opinion) bizarre limitations: you can copy the text of all the verses in an index to the printer, but you cannot copy the text of all the verses in an index to the clipboard with one copy! (You can get around this with MacroMaker, but still...) --Stephen Simmons
rex@nbc1.ge.com (Rex Espiritu) (08/27/90)
I've been using HyperBible with the Thompson Chain Reference on the Mac. It's been very good for study et. al. It takes good advantage of the Mac user interface/icons... It comes in either KJV or NIV versions. I have the NIV, which for some reason is slightly more expensive. Anyway, it's great stuff on the Mac. And boy does it fly on the IIfx at work. (It's ok on the + at home, too.) It takes up about 15 meg on a hard disk. -- M. Rex Espiritu, Jr. NBC News, A Division of rex@nbc1.NBC.GE.COM National Broadcasting Company, Inc. {uunet!crdgw1,ge-dab,philabs}!nbc1!rex 30 Rockefeller Plaza, Room 807 Voice: 212 664-5390 FAX: 212 664-3859 New York, NY 10112