timh@ide.com (Tim Hoogasian) (10/22/90)
In article <Oct.18.03.21.21.1990.1279@athos.rutgers.edu> davidh@tektronix.tek.com (David L Hatcher) writes: >In article <Sep.26.04.25.54.1990.2475@athos.rutgers.edu> garyh@crash.cts.com (Gary Hipp) writes: >> I have one further question. Since >>God is holy, what provision for sin does a non Christian have? > By the saving grace of a Holy God which is known and experienced >with in and through all of that Holy God's Creation! That very same >Creation is the ONLY Holy Scripture directly written by the hand of God. huh? you're arguing that just being alive and smelling the roses ("experiencing" God's creation) is provision for atonement for Sin? where did you get this from? >Personally, I can find no way in which the Glories found with in Christ >can be separated from the glories found with in life itself. seeing how Christ is Diety, i certainly can. creation is just that - a *creation* of the Almighty. Jesus Christ was not a "creation". i'd say that puts them in two entirely separate "classes." Even the >saving Grace that Christians find in Christ can be found and experienced >with in and behind the emotions that drive and maintain life. sounds pretty much like New Age "Gaia"-type philosophy. this would appear to equate with something along the lines of "Don't Worry, Be Happy... Treat all animals and trees and rocks and...(etc) with reverence, and God will bring you home..." >All of life is saved. And we are apart of life. nice to think, but Scripture won't back this up at all. since God often sent Israel warring against its pagan neighbors, to *destroy* them for their abominations, this nice "don't worry about it!" phil- osophy doesn't wash with the known nature of God. you seem to have missed the real question, david. if God is self-consistent, then what must His Holy, Just response be to sin? He loathes sin! so it would be ridiculous to suggest that He will tolerate it at the Judgement Day, and allow in those who have flouted His Law. -- Tim | ARPA: timh@ide.com Hoogasian | UUCP: sun!ide!timh (415) 543-0900 =============================================================================== #define DISCLAIMER "Are you nuts? I don't represent anyone, let alone myself!"