[soc.religion.christian] C.S. Lewis and friends

crf@mace.princeton.edu (Charles Ferenbaugh) (11/09/90)

In article <Nov.5.22.09.46.1990.21182@athos.rutgers.edu> you write:
>On a related note, Does anyone know about any other Christian novelists/
>Christian writers rather in the vein of C.S. Lewis?  I'd like to have
>*someone* else to cite!  (I realize that Lewis was remarkable, but
>there must be *someone*!)

Jenni,

A good person to try is G.K. Chesterton.  Most of his stuff was written 20
or 30 years before Lewis, but the style is similar.  Three of his works
that I recommend highly are _Orthodoxy_ and _The Everlasting Man_ (both
books of apologetics; the first a sort of spiritual autobiography, the
second a thorough debunking of the idea "Christianity is just the same
as all other religions"), and _The Man Who Was Thursday_ (a novel, sort
of a detective story; it's hard to describe without giving away surprises,
but I found it both entertaining and profound).

I should note that in Lewis' autobiog., _Surprised by Joy_, he mentions
Chesterton's works, and "Everlasting Man" in particular, as having
influenced his own journey.

I'd also be interested to see what sorts of other responses you get.  Could you
perhaps post a summary to s.r.c.?  Many thanks.

Grace and peace,

Charles Ferenbaugh

cotner@oreo.berkeley.edu (11/10/90)

In article <Nov.9.00.17.11.1990.27216@athos.rutgers.edu>
  crf@mace.princeton.edu (Charles Ferenbaugh) writes:
>
>In article <Nov.5.22.09.46.1990.21182@athos.rutgers.edu> you write:
>
>>On a related note, Does anyone know about any other Christian novelists/
>>Christian writers rather in the vein of C.S. Lewis?
>
>A good person to try is G.K. Chesterton.  Most of his stuff was written 20
>or 30 years before Lewis, but the style is similar.

G.K.C. is my favorite author, and I highly recommend him, too.  Two
more of his best are the biographies _St. Francis of Assisi_ and _Saint
Thomas Aquinas "The Dumb Ox"_.  The noted Thomist philosopher Etienne
Gilson said of the later, "Chesterton makes one despair.  I have been
studying St. Thomas all my life and I could never have written such a
book."  I have never read any other biography which make its subject
come alive as much as these two do.


Carl Cotner
cotner@math.berkeley.edu

mmh@cs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach) (11/12/90)

In article <Nov.10.07.29.03.1990.24878@athos.rutgers.edu> cotner@oreo.berkeley.edu writes:
>>>On a related note, Does anyone know about any other Christian novelists/
>>>Christian writers rather in the vein of C.S. Lewis?
>>
>>A good person to try is G.K. Chesterton.  Most of his stuff was written 20
>>or 30 years before Lewis, but the style is similar.
>
>G.K.C. is my favorite author, and I highly recommend him, too.  Two
>more of his best are the biographies _St. Francis of Assisi_ and _Saint
>Thomas Aquinas "The Dumb Ox"_.

His principle philosophical work on Christianity is "The
Everlasting Man" - well worth reading if you can get hold of a
copy. His work is difficult to find however - he is mostly
remembered today for his Fr.Brown detective stories, and these
are the only thing of his still in print, though collections of
parts of his works were published on the 50th anniversary of
his death (1986). I am a member of the G.K.Chesteron society,
though I can't remember the contact address at the moment.

Chesterton is usually coupled with Hillaire Belloc, who is also
worth reading, though with care. Belloc was somewhat
anti-semitic, usually in a joky way, but he was rather
obsessive about it - it all looks a lot nastier after Hitler.
Chesterton seemed to be led slightly in this way by Belloc, and
the result is that the reputation of both writers suffered
badly after Hitler (when neither was alive to defend himself).

Both Chesterton and Belloc's political comments show remarkable
foresight. They attacked socialism as bound to lead to all the
sorts of malpractices we have come to associate with it today,
and which led to its downfall in Eastern Europe, this at a time
when most of the intelligentsia were extremely pro-socialist,
and not even its critics saw how it would develop. Again this
led them to be dismissed as right-wing cranks, although their
politics was almost equally anti-capitalist.

Matthew Huntbach

kw1r+@andrew.cmu.edu (Kevin Whitley) (11/16/90)

Dorothy Sayers (of Lord Peter Whimsy fame) wrote a number of things
worth mentioning.  Plays (The Devil to Pay), a radio drama (The Man Born
to be King) and an illuminating translation of Dante's Divine Comedy. 
She also wrote a collection of essays called "The Mind of the Maker"
which has influenced me considerably.

Speaking of Chesterton, I have always been particularly fond of the
Father Brown detective stories.  They are the only such stories I know
of where a major criminal (Flambeau) is not chased and brought to
justice, but is converted. A very refreshing, and properly christian
goal.

Kevin Whitley
kw1r@andrew.cmu.edu

cotner@math.berekeley.edu (11/17/90)

>
>His principle philosophical work on Christianity is "The
>Everlasting Man" - well worth reading if you can get hold of a
>copy. His work is difficult to find however - he is mostly
>remembered today for his Fr.Brown detective stories, and these
>are the only thing of his still in print...
 
Actually, many of Chesterton's other books are still in print.
Here's a sample.
 
Press       Title                         Last Copyright         Notes
-----       -----                         --------------         -----
Image       Orthodoxy                          ????       These are his reli-
            St. Francis of Assisi              ????       gious works and can
            The Everlasting Man                ????       often be found in
            Saint Thomas Aquinas               ????       Catholic bookstores.
 
Pengiun     The Napoleon of Notting Hill       1985
 
Dover       The Club of Queer Trades           1987       These each have
            Four Faultless Felons              1989       an introduction
            The Paradoxes of Mr. Pond          1990       by Martin Gardner.
 
Wideview/   The Man Who Was Thursday           1980       It is up to at least
Perigree                                                  the 16th impression.
 
Carroll &   The Club of Queer Trades           1987
Graf
 
Dodd, Mead  The Collected Poems                1980
              of G.K. Chesterton
 
Ignatius    Collected Works                1986-present   An on-going project.
 
These are some of Chesterton's books which I have purchased since 1986
(when I discovered him).  Except for maybe Image Press (a division of
Doubleday) and Dodd, Mead & Company, each of the above publishers also
has other Chesterton selections.  Also, there are at least two or three
anthologies in print, a book of his drawings, and many biographies (I doubt
many of these stay in print long).  Enjoy!
 
>                  I am a member of the G.K.Chesteron society,
>though I can't remember the contact address at the moment.
 
It is:
 
G.K. Chesterton Society
1437 College Dr.
Saskatoon, Sask. S7N 0W6
Canada
 
Be careful to put enough postage on correspondence with them from the
U.S.  Unfortunately I don't remember what it is (but I have had two
letters to them returned because I forgot that it wasn't 25 cents).
 
 
Carl Cotner
cotner@math.berekeley.edu