[soc.religion.christian] Douay and New American Bibles

cms@gatech.edu (02/12/91)

In article <Feb.8.03.11.57.1991.15757@athos.rutgers.edu>, jhpb@granjon.garage.att.com writes:

> 4 Kings 13:21: "And some that were burying a man, saw the rovers, and
> cast the body into the sepulchre of Eliseus.  And when it had touched
> the bones of Eliseus, the man came to life, and stood upon his feet."

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> Joe Buehler

OFM comments:

> [I have a continual language gap between Joe's Bible and mine.  Since
> I suspect others are in the same position, I typically try to
> translate his references into the normal English ones.  However I find
> 4 Kings 13:21 quite mysterious.  The passage he quotes is in fact the
> normal 2 Kings 13:21, once you make the translation Eliseus -> Elisha.
> As far as I know, Catholic and Protestant Bibles agree on the names of
> 1 and 2 Kings.  So I conclude that this was a typo, and not a
> reference to some apocyphal book I've never heard of.  --clh]

 I believe that Joe is quoting from the Douay-Rheims Bible.  For your 
future reference, here are the books in order.  (Oh, yes, in Douay, 
his citation of 4 Kings is correct.)

Douay-Rheims            New American Bible
___________________________________________________

Genesis			Genesis
Exodus			Exodus
Leviticus		Leviticus
Numbers			Numbers
Deuteronomy		Deuteronomy
Josue			Joshua
Judges			Judges
Ruth			Ruth
1 Kings			1 Samuel
2 Kings			2 Samuel
3 Kings			1 Kings
4 Kings			2 Kings
1 Paralipomenon		1 Chronicles
2 Paralipomenon		2 Chronicles
1 Esdras		Ezra
2 Esdras, 		Nehemiah
   alias Nehemiah
Tobias			Tobit
Judith			Judith
Esther			Esther

Here, the order differs; in Douay, Machabees (Maccabees) is located 
after Malachis (Malachi).  But I'll keep them matched up.  The order 
is the same otherwise.

1 Machabees		1 Maccabees
2 Machabees		2 Maccabees
Job			Job
Psalms			Psalms
Proverbs		Proverbs
Ecclesiastes		Ecclesiastes
Canticle of Canticles	Song of Songs
Wisdom			Wisdom
Ecclesiasticus		Sirach
Isaias			Isaiah
Jeremias		Jeremiah
Lamentations		Lamentations
Baruch			Baruch
Ezechiel		Ezekiel
Daniel			Daniel
Osee			Hosea
Joel			Joel
Amos			Amos
Abdias			Obadiah
Jonas			Jonah
Micheas			Micah
Nahum			Nahum
Habacuc			Habakkuk
Sophonias		Zephaniah
Aggens			Haggai
Zacharias		Zechariah
Malachias		Malachi

The New Testament books are not substantially different.

Hope this helps.  Heh.  As a sidenote, in my Bethel Bible Study class 
in my Episcopal Church, the Father asked a question about Israel as a 
harlot, I think, and I responded by referencing "Osee" and everyone 
looked blank; he translated for me.  I didn't even realize at the time 
that the names were different.  I've gotten used to it now.  Growing 
up, I think I used an "in-between" Bible, with a partial New American 
translation, and partial Douay, with Douay titles.  I don't remember 
what it was called except that it had a picture of the Assumption on 
the front.

-- 
                                   Sincerely,
Cindy Smith
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