[soc.religion.christian] DEATH & HELL-1 - HISTORY

davidbu@loowit.wr.tek.com (David E. Buxton) (03/09/91)

Where did this idea come from, that we either go to hell or heaven  when  we
die? Or that hell can go on and on torturing for eternity?

We get our first glimpse of the origins of such a theory in the story of the
Garden  of  Eden  - "And the serpent said to the woman, 'Ye shall not surely
die.'" (Gen 3:4).  When she ate of  the  fruit  the  process  of  death  was
started  in her. Eternal hell and the eternal soul is the devil's lie.  This
lie of Satan's is that the wicked really do not die.  That their souls go on
living  through eternity.  Eve made the mistake of putting her trust in what
Satan said instead of in what God had told her.  Before we pursue a  bit  of
history let us consider what the Bible says:

     For dust you are, and to dust you shall return.  (Gen 3:19)

     "For in death there is no remembrance of You; In  the  grave  who  will
     give You thanks?" -- Psa 6:5  (NKJ)

     "The dead do not praise the LORD, Nor any who go  down  into  silence."
     -- Psa 115:17  (NKJ)

     "Will You work wonders for the dead? Shall the dead  arise  and  praise
     You?  Selah   Shall  Your  loving kindness be declared in the grave? Or
     Your faithfulness in the place of destruction?  Shall Your  wonders  be
     known  in  the  dark?  And Your righteousness in the land of forgetful-
     ness?"  --  Psa 88:10-12  (NKJ)

     "His spirit departs, he returns to his earth;  In  that  very  day  his
     thoughts perish."  (Psa 146:4)

     "For the living know that they will die; but the dead know nothing, and
     they  have  no  more reward, for the memory of them is forgotten.  Also
     their love, their hatred, and their envy have now  perished;  nevermore
     will they have a share in anything done under the sun."  --  Eccl 9:5,6
     (NKJ)

     "For Sheol cannot thank You, death cannot praise You; those who go down
     to  the pit cannot hope for Your truth.  The living, the living man, he
     shall praise You, as I do this day; the father shall  make  known  Your
     truth to the children."  --  Isa 38:18,19  (NKJ)

     "Behold, they shall be as stubble, the fire shall burn them; they shall
     not  deliver  themselves from the power of the flame; it shall not be a
     coal to be warmed by, nor a fire to sit before!"  --  Isa 47:14  (NKJ)

The Old Testament is clear about the state of the dead - they sleep a  sleep
of total unconsciousness.

In his book "The Fire That Consumes", Edward Fudge (Evangelical  Theological
Society)  takes  a  look at the books written between the time of the OT and
the NT, a period of 400 years.  These were years  of  dispersion  among  the
pagans  in  the lands of Egypt, Persia, Syria, Babylon, etc.  Fudge offers a
summary on the Apocrypha:

     ". . . . On the fate  of  the  wicked  this  literature  overwhelmingly
     reflects the teaching of the Old Testament.  The wicked will not escape
     God's judgment.  They will surely die.  Worms will be their end.   They
     will pass away like smoke of chaff, or burn up like tow.  The righteous
     may hope for a resurrection and blessed life with God, but  the  wicked
     will  have  no part in that.  Even faithful martyrs gasping final words
     of warning to their murderers say no more. . . . . . ."

Fudge's summary on the Pseudepigrapha, which is also intertestament (pp 153-
154):

     The Pseudepigrapha offers us a variety of Jewish expectations regarding
     the final end of sinners.  It is absolutely clear that there is no such
     thing as "the Jewish view" on the matter.  Neither is it proper to  say
     that  everlasting  conscious torment is the primary or predominant view
     in this literature.  This expectation appears quite clearly in a  hand-
     ful  of  passages.   It  is  a possible interpretation in several other
     cases.  For present purposes we will allow them all to  those  of  that
     persuasion.

     Is is also  absolutely  clear  that  the  pseudepigraphical  literature
     thoroughly documents the older view of the sinner's total extinction  .
     . . .

     Because of this unquestionable  range  of  opinion,  which  can  be  so
     thoroughly  documented,  we cannot presume a single attitude among Jews
     of the time of Christ on this subject.  We cannot read Jesus' words  or
     those  of the New Testament writers with any presuppositions supposedly
     based on a uniform intertestamental opinion.

     We must deny categorically the common assumption  that  Jesus'  hearers
     all  held  to  everlasting  torment.   We  must  not  assume that Jesus
     endorses such a view simply because He nowhere  explicitly  denied  it.
     We are free to examine the teachings of the New Testament at face value
     and to determine the meaning of its terms  according  to  the  ordinary
     methods of proper biblical exegesis.  The literary and linguistic back-
     ground for this exegesis includes the Apocrypha and Pseudepigrapha, but
     rising  high  and  towering  over it all we see the inspired revelation
     contained in the Scriptures of the Old Testament.

In Acts 23:6-8 we can see that the  Sadducees  and  Pharisees  had  opposing
views:

     "But when Paul perceived that one part were  Sadducees  and  the  other
     Pharisees, he cried out in the council, "Men and brethren, I am a Phar-
     isee, the son of a Pharisee; concerning the hope  and  resurrection  of
     the  dead  I  am being judged!" And when he had said this, a dissension
     arose between the Pharisees and the Sadducees;  and  the  assembly  was
     divided.  "For  the Sadducees say that there is no resurrection; and no
     angel or spirit; but the Pharisees confess both.  "   --   Acts  23:6-8
     (NKJ)

The Sadducees were the conservative "fundamentalists" of their day  and  the
Pharisees were the liberal, progressive "modernists".

Here is what I found in the Jewish Encyclopedia:

     "SOUL  -  (<Hebrew>,  <Hebrew>,  from  <Hebrew>  and  <Hebrew>  =   "he
     breathed";  equivalent to the Latin "anima" and "spiritus"): The Mosaic
     account of the creation of man speaks of a spirit or breath with  which
     he was endowed by his Creator (Gen. 2:7); but this spirit was conceived
     of as inseparably connected, if not wholly identified, with  the  life-
     blood  (Gen.  4:4;  Lev.  17:11).  Only through the contact of the Jews
     with Persian and Greek thought did the idea of a disembodied soul, hav-
     ing its own individuality, take root in Judaism and find its expression
     in the later Biblical books, as, for instance, in  the  following  pas-
     sages:  "The  spirit  of man is the candle of the Lord:" (Prov. 20:27);
     "There is a spirit in man" (Job 32:8);  "The spirit shall  return  unto
     God who gave it" (Ecc. 12:7). . . ."

The soul is the breath given by God and the  breath,  or  life  force,  that
returns  to  God.  This breath that returns to God is not a conscious breath
but rather the gift of life.

     "His spirit departs, he returns to his earth;  In  that  very  day  his
     thoughts perish."  (Psa 146:4)

The soul is that essential that man has failed to create in a test tube. God
takes  back  this  life force.  He already has a record of our character and
other essential statistics about us, perhaps even a DNA map.  God returns to
His possession your ability to live and not some conscious entity to take to
heaven or to cast into hell.  The judgement is still future.

The concept of the immortality of the soul  was  developed  in  the  mystery
religions  of  ancient  Greece.  The immortality of the soul was a principal
doctrine of the Greek philosopher, Plato, who was born about the time of the
last  Old  Testament  book was being written.  In Plato's thinking, the soul
was self-moving and indivisible or "simple."  Ungenerated  and  eternal,  it
existed before the body it inhabited, and it would survive the body as well.
To be apart from the body was the soul's natural and  proper  state;  to  be
imprisoned in a body was its punishment for faults committed during a previ-
ous incarnation -- New Catholic Encyclopedia,  13:464.   Examine  what  Paul
says about philosophy and the wisdom of man (1 Cor 1:19-2:5 and Col 2:1-10).
Greek philosophy was rather popular in Paul's day and Paul warns against it.

The Old Testament is clear about the state of the dead - they sleep a  sleep
of  unconsciousness.   Several  of  you sent me texts to support the popular
ideas of death and hell.  A quick search reveals that the first one of these
texts  show  up in Matthew and none in the Old Testament.  The Old Testament
is clear that the soul does not fly away as a conscious entity and  hell  is
not  yet  burning.  Start  with  todays popular views as your bias and I can
understand why you would say that you can prove the  state-of-the-dead  both
ways.   That is perhaps true if you confine your search to the New Testament
alone.  Starting from such a bias you can  then  offer  some  Old  Testament
texts  in  support.   But if you set your biases aside and study the subject
from cover to cover, comparing scripture with  scripture,  then  it  becomes
clear  that  the  New  Testament  does not contradict the Old Testament.  It
becomes clear that the dead do not fly away  to   heaven  or  to  hell.   It
becomes  clear  that in the end the body and soul of the wicked are consumed
with everlasting results.

Someone has said that the Old Testament  is  the  New  Testament  concealed,
while  the  New  Testament is the Old Testament revealed.  We cannot abandon
the Old Testament in our study of the  Biblical  question  of  what  happens
after  we  die. In fact the Old Testament is vital in properly understanding
what the New Testament has to say on virtually every topic.

The early apostolic fathers agree with Scripture and with  each  other  that
the  wicked will be raised to face God in judgment.  Both traditionalist and
conditionalist advocates have their early fathers that they like  to  quote,
often  quoting  the same statements of the same early fathers.  The earliest
of the fathers being more clearly conditionalist and restricting  themselves
more closely to the scriptures.  As we work out way into the mid 3'd century
we see the concepts of a torturing hell  infiltrate  the  Christian  church.
But  first  the  term  "immortal soul" was documented in the early church in
188, used by Athenegoras.  Tertullian carried it the next step by  reasoning
that  if  you have an immortal conscious soul after death then there must be
an immortal conscious hell for lost souls.  It was Origen (AD 185-AD250) who
introduced  the  idea  that hell was a place to purify the soul - and so his
following of universalists. Augustine, in the 4th Century,  popularized  the
idea  that  there  is conscious torment for the wicked, drawing heavily from
the works of Neo-Platonists. Gnosticism  and  Manichaeism  also  promoted  a
conscious,  immortal  hell.  Thomas  Aquinas, who died in 1274, was an eager
follower of Aristotle and builds  from  this  base,  teaching  the  immortal
incorruptible soul.

The theories of eternal souls and burning hell prevailed and grew  and  ela-
borated  up  until the time of the Protestant Reformation.  That is when the
printing press was invented and people by the thousands were  able  to  read
the  scriptures, reading them much more diligently than Christians do today.
By far the dominant consensus among the Reformers was that the soul  is  not
conscious  and  that hell is not eternal.  Here is what the reformers had to
say:

     Martin Luther (1493-1546) - "We should learn to view our death  in  the
     right  light,  so  that we need not become alarmed on account of it, as
     unbelief does; because in Christ it is indeed not death,  but  a  fine,
     sweet and brief sleep, which brings us release from this vale of tears,
     from sin and from the fear and extremity of real death and from all the
     misfortunes of this life, and we shall be secure and without care, rest
     sweetly and gently for a brief moment, as on a  sofa,  until  the  time
     when he shall call and awaken us together with all his dear children to
     his eternal glory and joy . . .  "For since we call it a sleep, we know
     that  we  shall  not  remain in it, but be again awakened and live, and
     that the time during which we sleep, shall seem no longer  than  if  we
     had just fallen asleep.  Hence, we shall censure ourselves that we were
     surprised or alarmed at such a sleep in the hour of death, and suddenly
     come  alive out of the grave and from decomposition, and entirely well,
     fresh, with a pure, clear, glorified life, meet our  Lord  and  Saviour
     Jesus  Christ  in  the clouds . . .  "Scripture everywhere affords such
     consolation, which speaks of the death of the saints, as if  they  fell
     asleep  and were gathered to their fathers, that is, had overcome death
     through this faith and comfort in Christ, and awaited the resurrection,
     together  with the saints who preceded them in death."  -- A compend of
     Luther's Theology, edited by Hugh Thompson Ker, Jr., page 242.

     William Tyndale, Bible translator and  Martyr  (1484-1536)  --  Tyndale
     supported  Luther  in  the revived teaching of conditional immortality,
     and it brought  him into direct conflict with the church of Rome - "The
     true  faith  setteth forth the resurrection, which we be warned to look
     for every hour. The heathen philosophers, denying that, did  set  forth
     that  the souls did ever live.  And the Pope joineth the spiritual doc-
     trine of Christ and the  fleshly  doctrine  of  philosophers  together;
     things  so contrary that they cannot agree, no more than the spirit and
     the flesh do in a Christian man. And because  the  fleshly-minded  Pope
     consenteth unto heathen doctrine, therefore he corrupteth the scripture
     to stablish it."

     John Firth, associate of Tyndale and fellow Martyre (1500-1533) -- ". .
     .  that  some  are  already  in hell and some in heaven, which thing ye
     shall never be able to prove by the scriptures . . . ."

     George Wishart, Greek Scholar and tutor of John Knox (1500-1546) --  He
     was charged (Charge XVI) with promulgating the doctrine of the sleep of
     the souls.

     John Locke, late 1600s, taught that  the  wicked  will  finally  become
     extinct and be no more.

     General Baptists, found in large numbers in England - they  held  "that
     the  soul, between death and the resurrection at the last day, has nei-
     ther pleasure or pain, but is in a state of insensibility."

     R. Overton (17th Century) - The whole man dies, that the soul going  to
     heaven  or  hell is mere fiction.  Immortality begins for the saints at
     the resurrection.

     John Milton, secretary to Cromwell (17th Century) - "The grave  is  the
     common guardian of all till the day of Judgement."

     Archbishop John Tillotson of Canterbury (1630-1694) - "I  do  not  find
     that  the doctrine of the immortality of the soul is anywhere expressly
     delivered in scripture, but taken for granted."

     Henry Layton, Anglican (1670-1706) - During life we live  and  move  in
     Christ;  and  when  we  die we rest and sleep in Him, in expectation of
     being raised at His second coming.

I could go on and on quoting from the days of the Reformation and the  years
that  follow.  The big question must emerge - where do Protestants get their
theology on immortal souls and torturing  hell?   Why  were  not  the  pagan
derived theories on eternal souls left behind at the Reformation?

We must turn to John Calvin.  I have read Calvin's favorite texts to support
his  theories,  and  he does expound on them with exceeding great eloquence.
But he also stands squarely on the traditions of Augustine who draws heavily
from  Greek  philosophy.   Calvin  quotes  extensively  from  Tertullian and
Augustine as well as others of the church fathers, even from Plato to add to
his  eloquence.   Fudge, on page 459, says - "Calvin consistently thinks and
speaks of the soul and its attributes in terms refined by and inherited from
pagan philosophy. . . . ."  On page 466 - Calvin, more than any one man, put
the Protestant stamp of approval on the traditional understanding  of  souls
and  of  hell.   The  power  of  his influence may be seen in the history of
theology since.  It would please the Reformer to know that his  heirs  would
cling to the immortality of every soul -- evil as well as good -- longer and
with greater affection than their Lutheran, Baptist and Anglican evangelical
brethren. . . . .

So, why was it that Calvin was able to overturn the majority  view  and  the
originally strong position of Luther and Tyndale?  Edward Fudge (Evangelical
Theological Society) spent many long hours researching this and  other  his-
torical  questions. He offers an explanation on pages 72 and 73 and now I'll
quote from pages 381 and 382 of his book "The Fire that Consumes" :

     Calvin was an exegete, but he did not build his case for final  punish-
     ment on an exegetical basis.  Even though he could write in the 'Insti-
     tutes' that God's wrath "is  a  raging  fire  devouring  and  engulfing
     everything  it  touches,"  his  philosophical  presuppositions of man's
     immortal soul prevented him from taking such language seriously in  the
     matter  of final punishment. Like Luther, Calvin largely began with the
     Augustinian theology.  He constantly sought  to  correct  the  received
     doctrines  in the light of Jesus Christ and the gospel of justification
     by faith.  But he did not shine the light of the cross  and  the  empty
     tomb  on  his doctrine of man or of the sinner's final end.  He did not
     interpret the popular traditionalist proof- texts in the light of their
     prophetic background; like other traditionalist, he largely ignored the
     conditionalist passages altogether.

     Calvin's first  theological  treatise  was  a  work  entitled  'Psycho-
     panychia',  and  it  was  a  vehement  attack on the doctrine (which he
     ascribed to the detestable Anabaptists) that man's "soul"  either  died
     with  the  body  or slept until the day of judgment.  Because the hated
     Anabaptists were associated with this doctrine, Calvin's opposition  to
     it increased all the more.  And even though Luther and Tyndale had both
     expressed the same mortalist views  as  the  Anabaptists,  the  intense
     opposition  of  Calvin  and  Bullinger  to  the  doctrine led the other
     leaders to drop the subject rather than to chance  dividing  the  whole
     Reformation over what seemed to be a minor point.

applied to a wide diversity of Reformation Christians who rejected the state
churches  of  Luther and Calvin.  Their modern descendants are Baptist, Men-
nonites and some Brethren.  {I ponder here how then the Baptists come to  be
so  famous  for  their  hell  fire  sermons?}   The Anabaptists stressed the
authority of the Word of God over any creed or any confession  of  faith  or
any state religion {on that basis I would have been Anabaptist}.  Just as it
was the hatred of the Jews that kept the Reformers from embracing the Bibli-
cal  Sabbath, so it was the hatred of the Anabaptists that turned the Refor-
mation in the direction of Calvin on the  question  of  souls  after  death.
Today  the  Jehovah's  Witnesses  serve  the  role that the Anabaptists once
served - that is to further entrench the popular position against  what  the
Reformers originally set out to proclaim.

Someone has observed that truth is always true even  if  it  is  not  plain,
while error is often more plain than it is true.

How can politically motivated theology  claim  to  be  the  truth?   Is  the
defence of ones church a more noble motive than the search for honest truth?
Is 'innocent' error acceptable before God?  Do we swallow  error  out  of  a
fear that the truth will divide the church?

Dave (David E. Buxton)
From the Silicon RainForest of the Northwest