rfrye@netexa.UUCP (Rob Frye) (03/19/86)
[The original article to which I'm replying came from net.lan. I'm reposting the questions that article asked.] Philip Prindeville writes: > I haven't heard much about CCITT protocols getting much acceptance > in UNIX circles lately, with the exception of the EAN message > system from the University of British Columbia C.S. Department. > It has been installed at several sites, and is available for a > reasonable fee. > (1) Does anyone in net-land know of an implementation of > CCITT protocols (X.25 for [say] a DMF-32 as a network > interface, or X.224/X.225 network/transport socket code, > or an X.410 (et. al.) mailer)? X.25 has been implemented on various machines under Unix, Xenix, etc. Some companies offering such that come to mind are TITN, Systech, MorningStar, Gateway/Source, The Software Group, and XDot. I'm sure there are others, but these are the ones I've found have more than vaporware. ** Begin Product Non-Announcement ** I don't know if anyone has X.224/X.225 available commercially. We will be building it into our Electronic Image Transmission products; currently we use T.70/T.62 which are also CCITT protocols (and are subsets of the full X.224/5) geared towards document/teletext/facsimile usage. We run X.410 and X.411 P1 on top of all that. I don't think there are any plans to sell just the comm software, but the whole product complete... ** End Product Non-Announcement ** I know that AT&T Bell Labs folks are interested in this and there has been much discussion in the net.mail* newsgroups about uucp, RFC, X.400 and ARPA domains and how in the hell they all fit together. Comments? > (2) If yes, how is it and are sources available? ??? Anyone with any such products want to say? > (3) Is there enough interest on the net to start a group > specifically about CCITT/ISO standards and their > implementations? (Hallo Europe? Canada?) I would like to start a group for that, but isn't net.dcom the right place for that? (And of course net.news.group for the proposal.) > I had heard that the Swedish PTT (Post, Telegraph & Telephone) had > implemented it, but I thought that was heresay. The German PTT (Deutches Bundespost) has an X.400 system operating today, tho I don't know any more than that. KDD (Japan) has interconnected with Univ of British Columbia in their X.400 mail system. -- ---> -- "You can Telenet, but you can't tell it much." Rob Frye, NetExpress Inc. {seismo,rlgvax}!hadron!{netex,netexa}!rfrye
dfk@unido.UUCP (03/22/86)
At this year's Hannover (Germany) fair there has been a demonstration of experimental X.400 systems by Bull, ICL, GEC, Nixdorf, Siemens and others talking to each other. The base system for this was mostly EAN but also some inhouse developments. I know that german computer manufacturers have X.4xx products in the pipeline. The European Comunity sponsors developments of such things and ISO networking stuff. There are ISO transport implementations for Unix around. Even some stuff that is supposed to run under Berkeley sockets. Unfortunately most of this is not available. Neither commercially nor otherwise..... > The German PTT (Deutches Bundespost) has an X.400 system operating > today, tho I don't know any more than that. Not to my knowledge. They have bought a centralized system that looks much like MCI mail. I guess it's the same thing. They PLAN to have it speak X.4xx. -Daniel Karrenberg <dfk@unido.uucp> <dfk@unido.bitnet> Universitaet Dortmund W. Germany
plattner@unizh.UUCP (03/26/86)
We have been users of EAN for more than one year. You might know that in Europe a Message Handling net has been built based on OSI protocols (the implementation used is EAN). EAN consists of 7 P2 P1 RTS 6 empty 5 X.225 BAS 4 X.224 Class 0 3 several networks (PSTN, X.25 (using a simple driver), INET DECnet) EAN is available for VAX/VMS, UNIX 4.2bsd, UNIX System V, soon VM/CMS (list is incomplete) As for other OSI Implementations: RETIX, Santa Monica, CA (213) 829-4922 offers MAP (=selection of OSI protocols), FTAM, X.400 MHS software, written in C, claimed to be portable. They sell source licenses. Bernhard Plattner cernvax!unizh!plattner cernvax!ifi.unizh.chunet!plattner