ok@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (Richard A. O'Keefe) (04/05/91)
I was in a bible study group last night. We are working through a particular workbook which I shan't name, because I don't think much of it. Last night's study had the title "The War Between the Spirit and the Flesh". One question in the workbook bothered me very much. It pertained to 1 Cor. 1:26, which reads in the NIV translation Brothers, think of what you were when you were called. Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were influential; not many were of noble birth. What was the question in the workbook? "What three kinds of people does God seldom call?" That really upset me. I spent 10 minutes trying to convince the other people in the Bible study group (who are, one and all, genuine Christians that I like and admire) that 1 Cor. 1:26 didn't say *any* kind of person was "seldom called by God", only that the church in Corinth didn't have many of those particular sorts. I tried to explain that *every single one* of the wise/influential/noble people in Corinth could have been called by God and that would be compatible with (the NIV translation of) what Paul wrote. If you doubt this, consider the following table: what sort of response> called by God not called or and accepts call rejects call what sort of person?V Total wise/influential/noble 90 10 100 ordinary 810 7290 8100 Of the people who are wise &c, what proportion are called? 90% Of the people who are called, what proportion are wise &c? 10% But the other people in the group (and, spare me days, two of them were qualified and registered nurses) could not see any difference between the two questions "are people who are wise &c seldom called" and "are many of the people who are called wise &c". They insisted that 1 Cor. 1:26 *did* say that people who are wise by human standards and so on *are* "seldom called by God" and made it plain to me that they thought that this meant that people who are wise by human standards have an additional burden of pride and so on which makes them unlikely to even listen to Godly matters. Well, 1 Cor. 1 _does_ seem to say that human wisdom is an obstacle, but it still doesn't follow that God doesn't *call* these people, only that they find it hard to respond. I couldn't even convince them that "whether God seldom *calls* a class of people" and "whether people in that class seldom *respond*" are distinct questions. (They may of course have the same answer. I am not denying predestination, though I have grounds for believing that most of the people in this group _would_ deny it.) Now, I haven't my Greek NT with me, so I haven't checked what the actual text says. (Oops, perhaps being able to read Greek counts as being "wise by human standards"...) Maybe I have misunderstood. But it was a very frustrating experience, and I was almost frightened by the inability of these good people to understand why I said "how can I go back to the University where I teach and look at my colleagues and say 'God seldom calls people like them'?" Disclaimer: I am not for an instant suggesting that being a scholar or knowing about current philosophy or having connections are moral excellences or that such people are better off than "ordinary" people, or that such people are not called upon to "boast in the Lord" instead of their own powers, nor yet that they may find it humiliating to "become as little children". What bothers me is the teaching that God "seldom calls" such people, and the eager acceptance of this teaching. Thanks for letting me vent my frustration. -- It is indeed manifest that dead men are formed from living ones; but it does not follow from that, that living men are formed from dead ones. -- Tertullian, on reincarnation. [Now you understand why faculty find teaching statistics so frustrating... One place where Jesus explicitly deals with this issue is the "rich young ruler". See Mat 19:23 ff. It seems to me that Jesus really does say that worldly riches can be an obstacle to responding to God. It also seems to me that Mat 19:26 says that even so, God is in the business of overcoming obstacles. --clh]