[soc.religion.christian] The Canon??

biz@soil.princeton.edu (Dave Bisignano) (05/05/91)

This is the first time that i've looked at this group and i have two questions 
(for now that is)  I come from a Catholic background and they have extra books
in their bible the apacropha(sp)  and i know that they didn't pass the canon.
What is the Canon and is it written somewhere that i can read it to see if i 
can understand how it  worked?  Also what is the best way to deal with 
a person that believes there is no such thing a God, and when we die we just 
feed the worms??

Dave Bisignano
biz@soil.princton.edu

[The canon wasn't established by a single group at single time.  There
were discussions over some period of time about the status of various
books.  There are some official decisions, but they functioned
primarily to ratify and publicize what had been agreed to by a more
informal process.  The Gospels and most of Paul's letters were
regarded as scriptural from as far back as we can see, certainly by
130.  The first occurence of the current list of NT books is
Athanasius' festal letter of 367.  It was made official at a council
in 382, and reaffirmed by Trent.  However during most of this period,
debates were over relatively "minor" books.  Debate persisted
especially about Heb, Jude, 2 Pet, 2 and 3 John, and Rev, with fewer
books being under debate as time went on.  

As for the OT, most of the discussions were far enough back that we
don't have accounts of them.  There are legends that a decision was
made around the time of Ezra, but there are scholarly doubts about
this.  There were certainly discussions among Jews in the 1st Cent.
AD.  The Catholic Church eventually adopted a list of OT books that
was based on the contents of the Septuagint, a widely used Greek
translation of the OT made (I think) in the 2nd Cent BC.  (We don't
know any of the details of its production, except legends.)  The
Hebrew canon eventually accepted by Jews was smaller, i.e. the same as
the OT used by Protestants.  Christians initially seem to have used
the Septuagint as their Bible (not surprising, since most of them
would have spoken Greek rather than Hebrew, and came from areas where
the Septuagint was used by Jews).  In the 4th and 5th Cent. there were
debates among Christians about the status of those books (and portions
of books) present in the Septuagint but not in the Hebrew canon.  By
and large the larger set continued being used.  The council of Trent
(16th Cent.)  made a final authoritative decision to accept the larger
list.  Protestants generally used the Hebrew canon.  Part of this is
that Protestantism was based on a renewal in Biblical scholarship, and
this naturally used the Hebrew OT, since Hebrew was the original
language.  There were also concerns that some doctrines that the
Reformers disapproved of were justified primarily by references from
the additional books (e.g. purgatory).

I'd say the official definition of the canon for Catholics is the
council of Trent.  Oddly enough, there is no authoritative decision
that can be pointed to for Protestants as a whole, because there
wasn't a single Protestant council.  However all the churches that
came out of the Reformation (with the usual exception of the
Anglicans, if you consider them to have come out of the Reformation)
agreed on using the Hebrew canon for the OT.  I don't know of any
single official document for the Hebrew canon.

--clh]