[soc.religion.christian] Spiritual Experiences

kavanagh@stolaf.edu (05/13/91)

This is in response to a number of articles that I have seen posted
in this newsgroup.   

Those who have received mail from me, please feel free to Post them
for me, I accidently used the -R rather than the -F command.

Know this, that I am not condeming anyone, only warning, and correcting
in love.  If I were to remain silent on the issue, it would not be love,
but hate.  I must speak and testify to what I know is true.

Here is an example:

>It's been along time now... but I used to read many books on
>the extraterrestrial contacts with people. These contacts
>ranged in description(of the creatures) from evil entities to
>ascended masters with long blonde hair(angelic in appearance).
>When asked about Jesus, all the responses were the same
>across the board, "He is one of many ascended masters. There
>are such beings for each planet".
>You get the same response from those who channel, or are in
>contact with a higher being such as some in the new-age movement.
>It comes down to who are you going to believe.


I do not doubt one bit that people have such experiences, BUT, they
are not of God.  I would submit unto you that those who channel, those
who are involved in the new-age movement, and several other spiritual
experiences are communicating with DEMONS.  I know that it sounds harsh, but 
listen up.  

"For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as
apostles of Christ.  AND NO WONDER, FOR SATAN HIMSELF MASQUERADES AS
AN ANGEL OF LIGHT"(2 Cor 11:13-14).

"Dear friends, do not beleive every spirit, but test the spirits to see
whether they are from God ... This is how you can recognize the Spirit
of God:  Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh
is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not
from God..."(1 John 4:1-3).

Jesus Christ, who IS God, who came in the flesh and rose on the third day
for our salvation, is not an ascended master.  He is the LORD of the 
universe!  By His spoken Word, at His mere command, the Universe was
created, and stands firm.  He is not just an ascended mastor, He is 
THE MASTER!

Just because someone has a spiritual experience doesn't mean 
we are to buy it, hook line and sinker!
You must check the spirits to see if they are of God.
All demons are liars, every one of them.  Demons
are not to be trusted.  Don't listen to them.  In all but one
incident(the man at the tombs) Jesus always commanded the demons
to remain silent and then casted them out.

I know this may cause a little commotion, but I write with a clear
concious, knowing that I am speaking the truth.  UFO's are demonic
apparitions.  I read about an incident a Christian lady had with a UFO.
She asked it(it made a telepathic link with her) if they served Jesus
where they came from.  They responded that they didn't need to.  She
had to actually rebuke them in the name of Jesus to get rid of them!
Another apparition that I believe is not the Lord is the appearances of 
Mary.  I hope someone has the sense to test this spirit.  The April 
message from "Jesus" does not line up with scripture, and the Lord
will never tell us anything that will not line up with scripture.
Remember what Jesus said, "For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I
am the Christ,' and will deceive many"(Matt. 24:5).

I pray the recipients of my letters will post them, as I go into depth on both
of these topics(UFOS and Mary).


The Lord bless you all, in the name of Jesus.  Amen.

-Darren Kavanagh

x7mx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (05/17/91)

<Someone wrote to the effect that UFOs and apparitions of Mary are the
works of demons. (My apologies if this seems an unfair summary;
perhaps the moderator can do better, if he has the inclination)>

If my summary seems harsh, one should read the original article. The original
article mentioned a lady asking aliens if they served Jesus and getting a 
negative reply. Be real -- if our planet ever gains the technology to visit
another planet, the expedition would most likely be secular. Would such an
expedition reply to a similar question positively? Would *we* then be demons?

Mary's message of April was suppossably incompatible with the Bible or
something like that. Assuming the poster has the message handy, could we see
this message posted so we can judge for ourselves if this message is what 
he claims it is. It is obvious that what is obvious to some is not that obvious
to others.

Chris