[soc.religion.christian] HOW DARE YOU JUDGE US, GOD

davidbu@loowit.wr.tek.com (David E. Buxton) (05/19/91)

How Dare You Judge Us, God!

Disclaimer - The thoughts I express here and the texts I have  selected  are
not  necessarily those of the book I site - even though it appears that this
is a book report.  What I write is not intended to be a prophecy of what the
judgement  will be like.  This is intended to provoke some thought, intended
to illuminate some facets of the plan of salvation that  you  may  not  have
considered.

Recently I read a book titled "How dare You judge Us, God".  It  draws  many
of its themes from the book of Job.  It draws many of its illustrations from
the holocausts inflicted on the Jews and  other  horrors  of  history.   The
author  is a former atheist who hated a God who would allow the agony we see
around us.  But from the book of Job he found that it is not God  but  Satan
who deserves the credit for the miseries of this earth.

In the future is the judgement when all will be judged:

     God shall judge the righteous and the wicked.  (Eccl 3:17)

     ". . . For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of  Christ.  "--
     Rom 14:10  (NKJ)

     ". . . . Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the  dead  at  His
     appearing and His kingdom:"  --  2 Tim 4:1  (NKJ)

     "And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this  the  judg-
     ment . .

     "For God will bring every work into judgment,  including  every  secret
     thing,  whether  it  is  good  or whether it is evil. "  --  Eccl 12:14
     (NKJ)

And on that day we all stand before the judgement.  Many are  angry  -  "How
dare  you judge me God" - they snarl and they curse.  "Sure I stole, but You
know how hungry I was."  "Yes, he died, but he deserved it."  "What  do  you
know  about  lust, God?"  "What do you know about temptations, God."   "Sure
its easy to be good up there in heaven with all your holy angels, but its  a
very  real  world of temptation down here."  "God, you are wired for perfec-
tion, how do you know what its like  down  here."   "God,  you  are  utterly
unfair,  you  are  out of your mind, you have no business judging me."  "HOW
DARE YOU JUDGE ME GOD".

Quoting from the book

     "Amid the madness, each one defies God's right to judge  them.   A  Jew
     shows the burns on his face from the Zyklon B in a Nazi gas chamber.  A
     Black exposes the scars on his wrists from weeks in chains on  a  slave
     ship.  Others, rejected by their own society, question whether God, who
     never knew the pain of rejection, has the  right  to  judge  those  who
     have.  Political  prisoners, who had spoken out for freedom, for truth,
     and who stood up against tyranny at the cost of their lives,  deny  God
     the prerogative to judge them.  Though each complaint is different, the
     consistent cry of this macabre chorus is:  "HOW DARE YOU JUDGE US, GO!"

And now it looks like the millions  standing  before  God  have  made  their
point, and certainly now God must agree and save most of them, if not all of
them - surely heavens gates must stand aside for them all.  The  gates  have
not  opened  yet, but surely God must concede.  They start to push and shove
to be the first ones in.  Satan quickly steps forward, adamant that  if  God
is  going  to save any one of them, then God must save him too.  And some of
the worst of the crowd now fear that they will be cast out along with Satan,
if  God  rejects Satan's claim.  But Satan now shakes his fist at God - "Why
did you cast me out of heaven - I was not a thief, nor a  murderer,  sure  I
had  my ambitions, but I'd done no one any harm."  And then Satan points out
those around him - "God, if you let him in,  oh  yes  and  that  saint  over
there,  such  a  hypocrite,  save  her and you must save me."  And the crowd
falls back in silence, for a minute.  To save any  one  of  them,  goes  the
logic, then Satan can force his way in too.  But then there collective anger
surges to the surface - "HOW DARE YOU JUDGE US, GOD!"  They are  eager  that
the  gates  open  up,  they  are sure that God cannot keep them out - not if
there is any shred of logic in the mind of God.  Satan steps closer  to  the
gates,  his  angels right behind him.  Everyone is eager push the gates down
if necessary.  They are sure that God has no right to deny them entrance.

Near the end of the book:

     How dare You judge us, God?" the mob,  stretched  across  the  horizon,
     screams.  "How dare You?  What do You know about pain, what do You know
     about suffering, what do You know about death?  And You, You are  going
     to judge us?"

     A flash of light explodes over them.  All shadows,  colors,  everything
     for  a  blinding moment are bleached white.  The billions freeze, their
     accusations locked inside open jaws.

     They stare upward.  They  see  the  figure  of  Jesus,  whose  poverty,
     hunger,  toil,  temptation,  suffering,  and humiliation is graphically
     portrayed across the sky.  They watch  Him,  a  human  being,  fiercely
     tempted,  yet  not  overcome.  They see Him preach truth, and stand for
     righteousness, as no man had ever done, and  they  see  Him,  rejected,
     hated,  and  arrested  for it. They see Him, the only sinless, innocent
     man, beaten, tortured, humiliated and killed in the prime of  His  life
     -- and all because of their sins.

     A hollow silence settles over the crowd.  No  more  fingers  point,  no
     more feet stomp, no more accusations ring out, and no more is the ques-
     tion, How dare You judge us, God? hurled toward heaven.  They now know.

As the Bible says:

     Tempted in the wilderness.  (Matt 4, Mark 1, Luke 4)

     "For in that He Himself has suffered, being tempted, He is able to  aid
     those who are tempted. "--  Heb 2:18  (NKJ)

     "For we do not have a  High  Priest  who  cannot  sympathize  with  our
     weaknesses,  but  was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin.
     "-- Heb 4:15  (NKJ)

Perhaps you argue that those who have rejected God can be turned into saints
- heaven need not be a re-run of this earth and still we can ALL be saved:

     " "He who is unjust, let him be unjust still; he who is filthy, let him
     be  filthy  still;  he who is righteous, let him be righteous still; he
     who is holy, let him be holy still.  And behold, I am  coming  quickly,
     and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. "
     --  Rev 22:12  (NKJ)

     "Let grace be shown to the wicked, yet he will not learn righteousness;
     in  the  land of uprightness he will deal unjustly, and will not behold
     the majesty of the LORD. "  --  Isa 26:10  (NKJ)

No, there is no Biblical basis for the many notions about how  all  or  most
will,  in  the  end,  be  saved.  Now is the time to welcome Jesus into your
heart and allow Him to cleanse you clean.

What about the theory that Jesus was 'wired' for perfection, that  He  could
not  have  sinned, that there was no chance that He could fail.  Speaking of
Lucifer before his fall into sin:

     "You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created, till ini-
     quity was found in you. "--  Ezek 28:15  (NKJ)

If Lucifer was 'perfect' as it says and yet could sin in  a  perfect  heaven
but  Jesus  could  not  sin  on  this  earth - if Jesus was 'wired' with the
instincts for perfection, having advantages that we do not have - then Satan
would  have  every right to step forward and declair a fraud - hold God hos-
tage - insist that we are either all doomed along with him, or that  if  God
saves  any of us sinners, that God must return Satan to his place in heaven.
Only because of the genuine life of Jesus as a human can  He  stand  as  our
High Priest and mediator and stand up before Satan and turn asside his argu-
ments against our salvation.  Certainly He brought  divinity  down  to  this
earth  with Him.  But it was not perfect divinity, but rather perfect human-
ity that He presents at the throne of judgement, as He stands as  our  advo-
cate against that prosecuting attorney named Satan.

Without the humble, tempted, sinless genuine life and death of Jesus - Satan
could  hold God hostage and prosecute each case against us.  Either everyone
would have to be saved for a re-run of this earth re-played in heaven.   Or,
to leave Satan behind, God would have to leave us all behind.  Thank God for
Jesus who came to live as a human, and yet without sin and to die the  ulti-
mate  rejection  of  the  cross  for us.  Satan and his following must stand
aside and let us in.  We can reach out and take Him by the hand.

Dave (David E. Buxton)

jclark@sdcc6.ucsd.edu (John Clark) (05/22/91)

In article <May.18.22.41.36.1991.13956@athos.rutgers.edu> davidbu@loowit.wr.tek.com (David E. Buxton) writes:
+How Dare You Judge Us, God!
+
+Recently I read a book titled "How dare You judge Us, God".  It  draws  many
+of its themes from the book of Job.  It draws many of its illustrations from

Personally I like the story of Jonah and after he preaches to
Nineveh he is disappointed that God did not blast the city. It seems
many Christians have the same disappointment.
-- 

John Clark
jclark@ucsd.edu