[soc.religion.christian] The Messiah in the Talmud

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 Hello, all.  This is an essay I wrote for my Judaism class.  For what 
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Cindy Smith
Philosophy 490
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Analysis of Talmudic Text


                           The Messiah 


MISHNAH, Sotah 49a-49b

In the footsteps of the Messiah insolence will increase and honour 
dwindle (1); the vine will yield its fruit [abundantly] but wine will 
be dear (2); the government will turn to heresy (3) and there will be 
none [to offer them] reproof; the meeting-place [of scholars] will be 
used for immorality; Galilee will be destroyed, Gablan desolated, and 
the dwellers on the frontier will go about [begging] from place to 
place without anyone to take pity on them; the wisdom of the learned 
(5) will degenerate, fearers of sin will be despised, and the truth 
will be lacking; youths will put old men to shame, the old will stand 
up in the presence of the young, a son will revile his father, a 
daughter will rise against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her 
mother-in-law, and a man's enemies will be the members of his 
household (6); the face of the generation will be like the face of a 
dog (7), a son will not feel ashamed before his father, so upon whom 
is it for us to rely?  upon our Father who is in Heaven.

IN THE SEPARATE PRINTED EDITIONS OF THE MISHNAH THERE FOLLOWS:  R. 
Phineas B. Jair used to say:  Heedfulness leads to cleanliness; 
cleanliness leads to purity; purity leads to abstinence; abstinence 
leads to holiness; holiness leads to humility; humility leads to fear 
of sin; fear of sin leads to saintliness; saintliness leads to (the 
possession) of the Holy Spirit; the Holy Spirit leads to the 
resurrection of the dead; and the resurrection of the dead cometh 
through Elijah of blessed memory, amen.


When will the Messiah come?  The Messiah, meaning "the anointed one," 
is primarily a term for anointed kings.  Later, "Messiah" took on the 
connotation of the promised "king" who would deliver Israel from its 
oppressors (Gen 49:10; Num 24:17; 2 Sam 7; Ps 2, 72, 110).  The 
messianic kingdom was eagerly anticipated during the Roman occupation 
of Israel and was portrayed in various ways culminating in an 
independent kingdom of Israel whose task was to rule the whole world.  
As a result, the title of Messiah has political overtones.  In 
prophetic literature, the Messiah is associated with the ideal Davidic 
ruler whom God would send to occupy the throne of David.  When David's 
dynasty died out during the exilic and postexilic period, the title 
referred to the high priest (lev 4:3, 5).  Even someone who was not an 
Israelite could function as a messiah, such as Cyrus, for example (cf. 
Isa 45:1).  In the second century B.C., passions for the Messiah ran 
high as the people fervently awaited the coming deliverer.  This 
Messiah is associated with the establishment of a new Jerusalem at the 
center of the new ruling Israel.

 The vision of who the Messiah would be were varied.  In the first 
century, there was no hope set on one particular person, but rather a 
vague hope that God would revamp the whole creation, radically 
altering the present age, by means of angels or other heavenly agents. 
Besides the political messiah, the Son of David who would destroy 
Israel's enemies and exalt Israel politically, there were also the two 
messiahs of the Qumran community.  Furthermore, the people expected 
that a new Moses would arrive who would provide the true 
interpretation of Scriptures and usher in an age where everyone obeyed 
God's Law.  Moreover, the people expected an eschatalogical leader who 
would conquer the forces of evil in a good/evil mystical conflict with 
universal results.  Then again, some expected a judge would would 
preside over the Final Judgement where the righteous would be 
vindicated and the wicked punished.  Jesus of Nazareth conducted his 
ministry in this hodge-podge of messianic expectations.  In light of 
all this, how does the Talmud view the Messiah and the Messianic Age?

 The Talmud teaches that souls are pre-existent in a place called 
"Guph."  "In the seventh heaven, Araboth, are stored the spirits and 
souls which have yet to be created" (Chag. 12b).  These are souls 
which have not yet been united to their bodies.  A common belief held 
that the Messiah would not come until all of these souls from Guph had 
been born, lived, and died on earth (Cohen 78).

 The rabbis teach:  "Seven things were created before the Universe 
came into being.  They are:  Torah, repentance, Paradise, Gehinnom, 
the Throne of Glory, the Sanctuary, and the name of the Messiah" 
(Pes. 54a).  When the world was created, God made provisions for the 
reception of human beings via the Torah.  In the Torah was found a 
scheme of righteousness to be followed by all human beings; in 
addition, allowance was made for human lapses from perfection -- for 
this reason was repentance created just after Torah and followed by 
the rest culminating in the name of the Messiah.  Repentance is given 
priority because, without it, human beings could not survive the 
vicious onslaught of evil.  "Great is repentance, for it reaches to 
the Throne of Glory.  Great is repentance, for it makes the Redemption 
(by the Messiah) to come near.  Great is repentance, for it lengthens 
the years of a man's life" (Joma 85a et seq.).  "The place which the 
penitent occup the perfectly righteous are unable to occupy" 
(Ber. 34b).  "Better is one hour of repentance and good deeds in this 
world than the whole life of the World to Come" (Aboth iv. 22).  Thus, 
repentance causes to day of the Messiah to come nearer because (not in 
spite of, but because) it is valued more highly than life in the World 
to Come (Cohen 104).

 As noted, the name of the Messiah is one of the seven things God 
created before the beginning of the world.  The preexistence of the 
Messiah is a belief following upon the concept that "the Holy One, 
blessed be He, prepares the remedy before the wound" (B. Meg. 13b).  
Therefore, the diaspora was predetermined by God in the very first six 
days of Creation.  The creation of the Messiah during the first six 
days was made necessary and makes sense only in terms of the 
catastrophe known as the diaspora.  In this sense, the myth becomes an 
absolute necessity (Patai 17).

 The character of the Redemption in the Talmud is catastrophic by 
nature and is essential to the apocalyptic conception.  In this 
vision, the world is beset by catastrophes:  world wars, revolutions, 
famine, epidemics, as well as economic upheavals, in conjunction with 
apostasy, desecration of God's name, disobedience to God's Torah (via 
forgetting), and the general dissolution of all moral laws.  The 
apocalyptic visions of the messianic era were codified in the above 
quoted passage from the Sotah.  The unrestrained statements about the 
days of the Messiah emphasize the point that the Messiah will come 
only in an age when all human beings are either totally corrupt or 
totally without sin.  For this reason, three different teachers of the 
Talmud in the third and fourth centuries say, "May he come, but I do 
not want to see him" (Scholem 12-13).  This gibes with the biblical 
injunction, "Woe to those who yearn for the day of the Lord" (Amos 
5:18).  Indeed, this analysis is supported in another work which 
reports the conversation as taking place in the following way:

	Rabbi Johanan said:  Let him (the Messiah) come, but let me 
	not see him (i.e. I fear the pangs of the Messiah).  Said
	Resh Laqish to him:  Do you refer to Amos V:19?  Let me prove 
	to you that we are just as badly off right now.  For nowadays
	a man goes into his field and finds a bailiff there...He 
	enters the town, and is accosted by a tax-collector...He goes  
	into his house, only to find his children suffering the pangs
	of hunger (Sanh 98b).

Amos 5:19 says:  "As if a man were to flee from a lion, and a bear 
should meet him; Or as if on entering his house he were to rest his 
hand against the wall, and a snake should bite him."  The atmosphere 
of the times was economically depressed, inflation was high, and 
currency had deteriorated which interfered with agricultural 
productivity.  It is not surprising that the Messiah was predicted to 
come amidst such a time; since the days of the Messiah were predicted 
to be worse than the current times, it is no surprise that some 
dreaded his coming (Alon 746-747).

 The most important meaning behind all Hebrew prophecies is the call 
to human beings to repent.  To sin means "to miss the mark;" to repent 
means "to turn" back to God.  "Every prophet only prophesied for the 
days of the Messiah and the penitent" (Ber. 34b).  Thus, it is to be 
understood that "the time will come when the Prophets and Hagiographa 
will be abolished, but not the Pentateuch" (p. Meg. 70d).  When all 
human beings obey the commandments, there will be no further need for 
prophets and prophecies since such were intended for the sinful, not 
the righteous era brought to the world by the Messiah (Cohen 124).  
This is similar to the Christian belief that, after the Second Coming 
of Jesus Christ, the Eucharist will cease to be celebrated.

 During the Messianic era, often called "the World to Come," when 
prophets and prophecies will be superfluous and unnecessary, all human 
beings, being in union with God and hence morally and ethically 
perfect, will receive prophetic gifts.  In other words, since everyone 
will have the power to  prophesy, and everyone will understand the 
prophecies, there will be no need to do so.  "The Holy One, blessed be 
He, said, In this world only individuals are endowed with prophecy, 
but in the World to Come all Israel will be prophets; as it is said, 
'It shall come to pass afterward that I will pour out My spirit upon 
all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old 
men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions" (Joe ii. 
28)' (Nu. R. xv. 25).  For Christianity, this event occurred at 
Pentecost when the Spirit was conferred upon the Apostles who 
proceeded thereafter to confer the Spirit, in baptism and by the 
laying on of hands, to all believers.  For Christianity, there are no 
more prophecies since the Spirit of holiness, leading to understanding 
of all the prophecies in the Hebrew Scriptures, has been conferred 
upon all believers.  Fusion of Jewish and Christian beliefs may 
coalesce in the Christian understanding of the prophecies concerning 
the Second Coming.  At this time, Jerusalem will be rebuilt; there is 
dispute in both Jewish and Christian circles as to how literally to 
interpret this prophecy.  Both Christians and Jews will deny original 
prophecy but instead will point to the excavation of Scriptures 
wherein is found deep divine Revelation (Cohen 124-125).

 The Talmud declares that one should have respect for rulers in 
general.  "Whoever acts with effrontery towards a king is as though he 
acted in similar manner before the Shechinah" (Gen. R. xciv. 9).  
Also, "He who rebels against the royal authority is guilty of an 
offence deserving of death" (Sanh. 49a).  Furthermore, "Always should 
the respect for royalty be upon you; as it is said, 'And all these thy 
servants shall come down unto me' (Exod. xi. 8).  Out of respect for 
the king Moses did not say, 'Thou (Pharaoh) shalt come down unto me.'  
It may also be derived from the action of Elijah who girded his loins 
and ran before Ahab's chariot (1 Kings xviii. 46)" (Zeb. 102a).  
Therefore, "A man should always bestir himself to run to meet the 
kings of Israel; and not only the kings of Israel, but even to meet 
the kings of other peoples, for if he is worthy, he will distinguish 
(in the age of the Messiah) between the kings of Israel and of other 
peoples" (Ber. 58a).  From these passages, it can be discerned that, 
in the age of perfect understanding and knowledge (the age of the 
Messiah), it will impossible to deceive and be deceived.  Hence, 
people will know the difference between secular kings and religious 
kings (or rulers).  The secular kings will obey the religious kings 
and religious kings will respect the secular kings.  These attitudes 
can be seen in the conflict between bishops and kings in Christian 
lands wherein this ideal of perfect respect was striven for but never 
attained.  In America, we have perhaps come closer than in any other 
nation.  For example, in America, the President (an Episcopalian 
Christian) obeys America's only King (God) and yet it is not generally 
regarded that this faith of his interferes with his secular function 
as President.  This rule is envisioned as helping the Jew to live his 
life in a land not his own with laws that are not religious laws.  The 
purpose may be that God values the process by which we come to know 
him in obedience to rules that govern different societies (Cohen 190).

 "Great is charity, for it brings the Redemption (of the Messiah) 
near" (B.B. 10a).  Many peoples regarded their Golden Age as having 
occurred sometime in their distant past.  By contrast, Israel 
relegated its Golden Age to the future -- the days of the Messiah.  
Israel consistently looked to the future as the time when the nation 
would reach its zenith.  Israel hoped in the marvels that the Messiah, 
through Israel itself, would bring to the world (Cohen 346).

 Yet, still, the vision of the messianic era is apocalyptic in Jewish 
literature.  The idea seems to be that before perfection must come 
chaos.  Utopianism is an arc reestablishing the kingdom of David and 
the kingdom of God as well as reestablishing Paradise, once lost, on 
earth.  Messianic utopianism is found in Isaiah when in the Last Days 
the condition of the world will be an earth fully cognizant of the 
Lord.  Nothing will be repeated but it will be presented in a new way. 
Such utopianism often has an extravagant character and attempts to 
determine the inner core of redemption prior to experiencing it.  
During this attempt at understanding the redemption are interspersed 
times of darkness and persecution, the lot of the Jew.  The image of 
wholeness in the messianic age was often contrasted to the piecemeal 
existence of the everyday Jew.  The idea of the New Jerusalem appeared 
before the apocalyptist emphasized the renewal of the world being more 
than a simple restoration, but rather a complete revamping such that 
the whole creation is made new again (Scholem 13-14).  This concept is 
very similar to the New Jerusalem found in the Christian Book of 
Revelation where the heavenly Jerusalem settles on the earth in Israel 
at the very same sight as the old Jerusalem.

 Who is the Messiah and where will he come from?  "From the beginning 
of the creation of the world king Messiah was born, for he entered the 
mind (of God) before even the world was created" (Pesikta Rab. 152b).  
The Rabbis unanimously agreed that the Messiah would be a mortal human 
being, just like everyone else, who would be selected to perform an 
appointed task.  Nowhere in the Talmud is there any indication that 
the Messiah would be superhuman, supernatural, or a deific deliverer 
(Cohen 347).

 Many different dates were calculated for the coming of the Messiah.  
A more interesting and esthetically pleasing belief was that the date 
of the Messiah's coming will be determined by the conduct of the 
people.  The statement, "I the Lord will hasten its time" (Is. lx. 
22) was explained in this way:  "If you are worthy I will hasten it; 
if you are not worthy it will be in its time" (Sanh. 98a).  Also, "all 
'the ends' have passed (and the Messiah has not come); it depends only 
upon repentance and good deeds."  And, "If Israel repented a single 
day, immediately would the son of David would come.  If Israel observed a 
single Sabbath properly, immediately would the son of David come"      
(p. Taan. 64a).  Finally, "If Israel were to keep two Sabbaths 
according to the law, they would be redeemed forthwith" (Shab. 118b).  
From the Christian point of view, Mary is Israel and Mary was 
absolutely faithful to God due to the grace of God given her as the 
Immaculate Conception.  Mary brought forth Jesus who was absolutely 
faithful to God and gave his life to save humanity from its sins 
against its Maker.  Thus, when Mary was conceived in the womb of 
Good Saint Anne, the messianic era dawned; when Jesus was conceived in 
the womb of Mary and born in a cave, the messianic era of redeeming 
grace was born.  Since Mary was saved by the redeeming grace of 
Christ, the instant of her salvation (her conception) is the dawn of 
the era of Redemption (the days of the Messiah) since she was the 
first person to be saved by the redeeming grace of Christ.

 The Messiah will inaugurate a period of divine peace and happiness.  
"Come and see:  all whom the Holy One, blessed be He, smote in this 
world He will heal in the Hereafter.  The blind will be cured; as it 
is said, 'Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened' (Is xxxv. 5)."  
Jesus appears to have fulfilled this prophecy when he consistently 
healed the blind and brought them sight.  The story of the healing of 
the man born blind should not be interpreted literally.  Rather, in 
this story, all of Israel (and the nations) is blind, dwelling in 
darkness, and Jesus is the light swimming through the darkness and 
passing on this light as one candle passes on light to another.

 "The lame will be cured; as it is said, 'Then shall the lame man leap 
as a hart' (Gen. R. xcv. I).  Whenever Jesus cured the lame, he always 
admonished the person whom he had healed, "Go forth and sin no more."  
This exemplifies the earlier propecy that repentance walks hand in 
hand with the Messiah.

 The Messianic age will also presage the resurrection of the dead.  
The Resurrection of the body is at the core of Christian teaching 
concerning the Messiah.

 Rabbi Jose once said:  "Those who calculate the coming of the Messiah 
have no share in the world to come.  The same applies to one who hates 
the Sages and their disciples, and to the false prophet, and to the 
delator...."  One scholar suggests that this passage may refer to 
Jewish Christians, but another scholar says that this is 
unsupportable (Alon 676).

 In many ways, Jesus seems to have fulfilled who the Jews believe the 
Messiah will be but seems not to have fulfilled what the Jews believe 
the Messiah will do.  Christians have interpreted everything the 
Messiah will bring (peace, happiness, contentment, etc.) 
metaphorically, whereas the Jews insist on a more literal 
understanding of these things.  The Messiah appears to me to be an 
idyllic personage who will usher in an age of perfection (a Golden 
Age).  Christians believe this perfection to be the perfect Redemption 
of all sins, making the whole world new in terms of humanity's 
relationship to God.  The Jewish understanding of this perfection is 
much more concrete.  In addition, because the Jewish Golden Age always 
lies in the future, Jesus's primary failing as messianic material 
(from the Jewish point of view) seems to me to be that he has already 
come.  Yet, again, Jewish and Christian views seem to coalesce even 
here in the belief that the Messiah's one purpose is to free Israel 
from its oppressors; for the sufferings that are humanity's lot, human 
beings must wait until after death.  "There is no difference between 
this world and the days of the Messiah except the servitude of the 
heathen kingdoms alone; as it is said, 'For the poor shall never cease 
out of the land' (Deut. xv. II)" (Ber. 34b), in other words, not even 
during the days of the Messiah.



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