NU169273@vm1.nodak.edu (06/07/91)
THE NEW BIRTH ============= Someone was asked why he preached so often on, "Ye must be born again." He answered, 'Because you must be born again.' Have YOU been born again? Without it you have no hope of escaping the terrors of hell or of enjoying the glories of Heaven. Jesus said, "Ye must be born again." (John 3:7) What The New Birth Is Not ------------------------- 1. It is not religion. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Nicodemus was a Pharisee, a very strict religionist. He celebrated the Passover, paid tithes, said prayers, brought sacrifices, tried to keep the law. And it was to HIM the Lord Jesus said, "Ye must be born again." Law keeping, going to church, being religious, joining a church, being baptized, living up to a religious creed will not save you. There will be many in hell who did all of these things. Will you? Ye MUST be born again. 2. It is not morality. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ You may try to keep the golden rule, pay your bills, be a good neighbor, keep out of jail, live a clean moral life, but that won't save you. You moral folks, you law-abiding citizens, must be born again or be lost forever. It is not recorded that our Lord said, "Ye must be born again" to cowardly Pilate, or to two-faced, hypocritical Judas. Why? Because you would say, 'I know miserable hypocrites like Judas, and men like Pilate need to born again, but I'm not like them. I wouldn't betray Christ with a kiss after professing to be His friend. I wouldn't order Jesus to be beaten and then turn Him over to a howling blood-thirsty mob to be crucified. Gangsters, thugs, adulterers, whoremongers, liars, drunkards, gamblers need to be born again, but not I. I'm all right.' My friend, do you realize that God's Son spoke these words on the new birth to a man who was doing his best to gain Heaven? Without a doubt he was neither a crook, drunkard nor gambler. He was a true husband, a good neighbor, a man of clean morals, and religious. If he needed to be born again, so do you. How do you expect to make it to Heaven without being born again if Nicodemus couldn't? 3. It is not reformation. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Even if you would quit all your meanness, that would not be the new birth. Your trouble is not on the outside, but on the inside. You don't need exterior decoration, but interior regeneration. Satan wants you to rest in a false peace. I warn you in Jesus' Name, don't be satisfied unless you are sure you have been born again. Without it you are as lost as the heathen who bows before his hideous idols. What The New Birth Is --------------------- 1. It is a mystery you can't explain, but a reality no ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ man can explain away. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is everyone that is born of the Spirit." (John 3:8) Just as Nicodemus could not understand or explain the wind, so no man can understand or explain the new birth. But, the wind is a reality no man can explain away. Only a fool would say, 'I don't believe in the wind. I have never seen it, I can't understand it, so there just isn't any such thing as a wind.' Many Bible-rejecting, faith-destroying 'explainers' are denying the reality of the new birth. What they can't grasp with their little finite minds they say just doesn't exist. They say the new birth is just an 'emotional experience.' When they get through explaining the new birth there isn't anything left to it. But Thank God, no matter what the infidels and modernists say, the new birth is a reality no man can explain away! Ask the man who has been born again if there is anything to it. See the wind moving the big limbs of an oak. Read how a wind will tear a house to splinters. Only a fool would deny the reality of wind! You cannot see the Holy Spirit. You cannot explain Him. But see His mighty power make the harlot pure, the liar honest, the drunkard sober, the blasphemer pray, and then try to deny the reality of it. Someone has said that the new birth is not something that needs to be explained, but to be experienced. If you have not had the experience, the explanation would do you no good, and if you have had the experience, you don't need the explanation. 2. It is the work of God by which a poor, lost, guilty, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ hell-deserving sinner who receives the Lord Jesus receives a new nature, becomes a child of God and begins a new life. It is a second birth, a spiritual birth. The physical life begins by birth. The spiritual life begins the same way--not by joining a church and becoming religious. You cannot JOIN the family of God, you must be BORN into it. Someone has said, 'You can't make a Christian out of anybody.' True, Christians are not made, they are born. A birth is the coming into being of a new life which has the nature of its parents. When you were born the first time you were made a partaker of the old nature, the sinful nature we all received from Adam. When you are born again you become a partaker of the divine nature. "To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, (II Peter 1:4). Is this true of you? DO YOU have the divine nature? No matter what kind of a religious profession you have made, no matter how good a person you may be morally, unless you have been made the partaker of the divine nature, you are not saved. God gives you this new nature the moment you receive His Son. It is instantaneous. You can no more be born by degrees than you can shoot a firecracker by degrees. When you are born again you begin living a new life. That is what happened when you were born the first time, you began living a life you had never lived before. You made a profession of salvation, but was there any difference in your life after that? Don't rest in a shallow profession. Some think they are going to Heaven just because they went forward in a meeting. Be sure you are born again. There may be a more spectacular change in the life of one who is a drunken, railing blasphemer, but even in you who have not been down deep in sin, there is bound to be a change when you are born again. There will be a new attitude towards the Lord Jesus Christ, His Word, His people, and a new attitude towards prayer. Are you SURE you have been born again? You may not know the exact day or hour you trusted Christ, but you should be able to say, 'I know NOW I am born again.' If you are not certain about this most solemn matter I beg of you to tell the Lord Jesus that you receive Him now. Then read John 3:36 and believe it. "He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life." Why You Must Be Born Again -------------------------- 1. Because the Lord Jesus Christ said so. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That ought to settle it. Why argue about it when He Who is the Son of God says you must be born again? He ought to know. 2. Because you have a sinful nature. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The nature we all receive from Adam is fallen, corrupt, totally depraved. God says the heart of man is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked. (Jeremiah 17:9) With this old nature you could not enjoy yourself in Heaven. If you can't find any pleasure in a prayer meeting now, how do you expect to be able to enjoy Heaven hereafter. Heaven is a holy place. When you are born again God gives you a holy nature that you might enjoy yourself in Heaven, a holy place. I've read that over 85 times the New Testament refers to the fact of a new life being imparted to man. 3. Because you cannot save yourself. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any many should boast." (Ephesians 2:8, 9) "Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us," (Titus 3:5). Now don't skip lightly over these two quotations from God's Holy Word. Read them again and again until the truth grips you. You cannot save yourself--you MUST be born again. How To Be Born Again -------------------- "He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God." (John 1:11-13) 1. It is not blood. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Your are not a Christian just because your parents may be. There is one thing you do not inherit from your parents and that is salvation. Even though your folks may be saved, if you have not been born again you are lost. 2. Nor of the will of the flesh. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ It is not by your own efforts and will power. There is absolutely no use to try to save yourself. You will fail. So why not stop trying? Instead of trying, trust, receive, depend upon the One who died and rose again. If I'd ask some of you if you were a child of God you would say, 'I don't know for sure, but I'm trying to be, in my poor weak way.' Now suppose you ask Johnny Jones if he is the son of Mr. and Mrs. Jones and he'd answer, 'I am not certain, but I'm trying to be, in my poor weak way.' How silly. He is not their son because he tries to be, but because he was born into their home. If you are a child of God it is not because of your trying, but because you have been born into His family. 3. Nor of the will of man. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ It is not brought about by any of man's religion creeds, systems or ceremonies. No man or organization can do anything to you that will make you a child of God. Join what you will, go through ceremony after ceremony, memorize creeds, and try to keep the rules and regulations of man-made systems, but it will not save you. I read a man testify, 'I have been the president of the men's Bible class in our church for the past two years, but didn't get saved until just two months ago.' For 22 months, the president of the men's Bible class, a member of the church, believing in God and the Bible, but on the way to hell because he had never been born again. How thankful he was that he saw his true condition before God before it was too late. Had he died in that state he would have been eternally lost. 4. But of God. ^^^^^^^^^^ Jesus said you must be born "of the Spirit." It is God's work, not yours. It is a miracle. Only God can perform it. If God has not done a work in your life you are not born again. Your part is to believe God's record about you, that you are lost and in need of Christ, and receive Him as your Lord and Savior. He died at Calvary, satisfying the righteousness and justice of God. He arose and is seated today in a real body of flesh and bone as God's man at the right hand of the majesty on high and He is offered to you as God's salvation. When you receive HIM you will be saved for Paul says we are "all children of God by faith in Christ Jesus." (Galatians 3:26) But there is no hope if you reject Him, only tears and night and endless woe. I for some 20 years thought (wrongly) that I was a Christian because I had done so and so works: unbeliever's baptism, confirmation, church membership, confessing certain creeds, and partaking in the Lord's Supper to name just a few. However, after going several times to a Bible believing/Bible teaching church, the Holy Spirit convicted my heart terribly. I thank God for this. I finally knew I was lost without a Savior. I repented of my sins to God the Father and placed all my faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ at Calvary to forgive me of my sins that would have taken me to hell. While your heart is yet tender and before it is eternally too late, I beg you again, for your sake, your family's sake, for Jesus' sake, do not trifle with this thing. Bow at the feet of the risen Lord and tell Him you receive Him now, for you can be saved without money, without popularity, without friends, without health, but NOT WITHOUT THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. "He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life." (I John 5:12) Perhaps the following prayer might be helpful. ------------------------------------------------------------ I realize the need of the New birth. I do here and now sincerely receive God's risen Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, as my Lord and Savior, trusting Him to wash my sins away. I will stand on His promise, "He that hath the Son hath life," and when I have opportunity I will confess Him before men as my Lord. ------------------------------------------------------------ K. Paulson N. D. S. U. student 1372 32nd Street South #20 Fargo, ND 58103
math1h3@JANE.UH.EDU (David H. Wagner) (06/10/91)
In article <Jun.6.23.16.25.1991.8683@athos.rutgers.edu>, NU169273@vm1.nodak.edu writes: >What The New Birth Is Not >1. It is not religion. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >Nicodemus was a Pharisee, a very strict religionist. He >celebrated the Passover, paid tithes, said prayers, brought >sacrifices, tried to keep the law. And it was to HIM the Lord >Jesus said, "Ye must be born again." Law keeping, going to >church, being religious, joining a church, being baptized, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [deletion]...will not save you. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Agreed, that being 'born again' is not just religion. But Jesus said "no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of *water* and the Spirit". And Peter said, "this water symbolizes baptism *which now saves you* ". (1 Peter 3:21) And Paul wrote: "He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit." (Titus 3:5) Finally Paul wrote in Colossians 2:11,12, "In him you were also circumcised, in the putting off of the sinful nature, not with a circumcision done by men but with the circumcision *done by Christ*, having been buried with him *in baptism* and raised with him through your faith in the power of God, who raised him from the dead." So I conclude: 1. Baptism is not just an empty sign, but an act of God. 2. God saves us through Baptism by the power of his Word. 3. Baptism works renewal/regeneration/rebirth in us. 4. This renewal/regeneration/rebirth is precisely what Christ meant by 'being born again.' >What The New Birth Is >[deletions] > Someone has said that the new birth is not something that needs >to be explained, but to be experienced. If you have not had the >experience, the explanation would do you no good, and if you have >had the experience, you don't need the explanation. You seem to be saying that the Holy Scriptures are NOT able to make us wise for salvation, that our knowledge of God comes partly from 'experience', and not 'Sola Scriptura'. Is that really what you want to say? >2. It is the work of God by which a poor, lost, guilty, > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >hell-deserving sinner who receives the Lord Jesus receives a new >nature, becomes a child of God and begins a new life. It is a >second birth, a spiritual birth. Agreed. But does not Paul say in Romans 7 that the sinful nature remains with us, and that our new self is at war with the sinful nature? > When you are born again you begin living a new life. That is >what happened when you were born the first time, you began living >a life you had never lived before. You made a profession of >salvation, but was there any difference in your life after that? >Don't rest in a shallow profession. Don't rather, trust in your own works, or anything that you DO. Put your trust in Jesus Christ, your Savior. > Be sure you are born again. There may be >a more spectacular change in the life of one who is a drunken, >railing blasphemer, but even in you who have not been down deep ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >in sin, there is bound to be a change when you are born again. ^^^^^^ Really this is offensive. Aren't we all deep down in sin? >There will be a new attitude towards the Lord Jesus Christ, His >Word, His people, and a new attitude towards prayer. Should a person condemn his own faith because he does not experience this? I think you are confusing justification with sanctification. We are declared righteous, not because of anything we do, but because the Son of God became one of us, lived a perfect life, yet died on the cross for our sins. His resurrection showed us God's verdict of 'not guilty' on the entire human race. We accept that verdict through faith, and even that is a gift of God. But I think you are making faith/conversion/rebirth a work of the sinner--whether you realize it or not. The new self is born in the sinner at conversion/baptism. Yet even in adults, it starts as an infant. So Peter wrote: "Like newborn babies, crave pure spiritual milk, so that by it you may grow up in your salvation, now that you have tasted that the Lord is good." (1 Peter 2:2). Yet we ought to grow up in our faith: "We have much to say about this, but it is hard to explain because you are slow to learn. In fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God's word all over again. You need milk, not solid food! Anyone who lives on milk, being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness. But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil." --Hebrews 5:11-14 If someone confesses faith in Jesus Christ, are we to question whether they 'feel' born again? We cannot judge people's hearts, only God can do that. (cf. the parable of weeds in the wheat). Shouldn't we rather simply encourage them to continue in that faith, and to feed their faith with the Word of God and the Lord's Supper? David H. Wagner a confessional Lutheran. "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding" --Proverbs 3:5 My opinions and beliefs on this matter are disclaimed by The University of Houston.
horsch@cs.ubc.ca (Michael Horsch) (06/10/91)
In article <Jun.6.23.16.25.1991.8683@athos.rutgers.edu> NU169273@vm1.nodak.edu writes:
:[...]
:Nicodemus was a Pharisee, a very strict religionist. He
:celebrated the Passover, paid tithes, said prayers, brought
:sacrifices, tried to keep the law. And it was to HIM the Lord
:Jesus said, "Ye must be born again."
You are playing fast and loose with context here. What you haven't
chosen to tell us is that Nicodemus has already made a confession of
sorts about Jesus: "Rabbi, we know you are a teacher sent by God."
This confession suggests to me that Jesus was not telling Nicodemus
that he lacked an essential ingredient for salvation, but explaining
to him what that ingredient is. In other words, if Nicodemus had not
already been reborn, he would not have recognized Jesus. Recall
Peter's confession, and Jesus' reaction to it.
[...]
:1. It is a mystery you can't explain, but a reality no
:man can explain away.
This is no definition. You seem to be arguing for a special kind of
"feeling" that only the "feeler" can understand, and this is not
helpful either. By leaving 'rebirth' ill-defined, or defined only in
terms of a personalized emotional response to a conversion experience,
you seem to make illegitimate the faith of anyone who can't identify
that special kind of feeling. Thus you steal faith in God's grace,
replacing it with faith in a feeling.
:[...]
:Why You Must Be Born Again
:
:1. Because the Lord Jesus Christ said so.
:
:That ought to settle it. Why argue about it when He Who is the
:Son of God says you must be born again? He ought to know.
The phrase "must be" is interesting in modern English, having two
nearly opposing readings. The first is "need to be" as in "I
must be leaving." The second is "really are" as in "You must be
dreaming."
Now read the last few lines of the basenote again, starting from "Why
You Must Be Born Again".
This English ambiguity is incidental, but still interesting. Perhaps
an indicator for being "reborn" is the following: Do you hear the
so-called saviour say: "You have to be born again," or do you hear
Jesus the son of God say: "You really are born again"?
Personally, I prefer it to trying to identify an ill-defined feeling.
:K. Paulson
:N. D. S. U. student
:1372 32nd Street South #20
:Fargo, ND 58103
Mike (goo)
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Michael C. Horsch Department of Computer Science
horsch@cs.ubc.ca University of British Columbia
NU169273@vm1.nodak.edu (06/14/91)
This is a response to Michael Horsch's post over my original post on 'The New Birth.' Mainly, I want to clearify briefly. ------------------------------------------------------------ Michael mentioned a "confession of sorts" by Nicodemus. Nicodemus originally recognized Jesus as "a teacher come from God" in John 3:2. Logically, Nicodemus (a man of the Pharisees...a ruler of the Jews) must have either seen some of the teachings of Jesus Christ in person, or come by it by word of mouth, or etc. Anyways, my point is Nicodemus only acknowledged Jesus as a teacher come from God. He HAD NOT acknowledged Jesus Christ as his personal Lord and Savior like a born again Christian has. Nicodemus had never truly seen himself as lost and deserving of hell. I believe Nicodemus was being honest with himself in that he was missing something (namely the Lord Jesus Christ as his personal Savior). I believe Nicodemus was searching because of the preaching of Jesus Christ which he had heard either directly or indirectly. Remember God's word will not return void. I'm sure someone out there will probably read this and wonder what K. Paulson is talking about in the "The New Birth" post. My other point is that salvation is NOT a tingly feeling. Being born again is not the after effect of conversion. Conversion is being born again. Trusting in a feeling (rather than repenting to God the Father and placing all your faith in the Lord Jesus Christ to save you) IS NOT Bible salvation. I'm not suggesting what Michael was trying to say in this last paragraph. I'm just clarifying, here. K. Paulson N. D. S. U. student 1372 32nd Street South West #20 Fargo, ND 58013
horsch@cs.ubc.ca (Michael Horsch) (06/15/91)
In article <Jun.13.23.23.53.1991.15693@athos.rutgers.edu> NU169273@vm1.nodak.edu writes:
[...]
:Michael mentioned a "confession of sorts" by Nicodemus.
:
:Nicodemus originally recognized Jesus as "a teacher come from God"
:in John 3:2.
:
:Logically, Nicodemus (a man of the Pharisees...a ruler of the Jews) must have
:either seen some of the teachings of Jesus Christ in person, or come
:by it by word of mouth, or etc. Anyways, my point is Nicodemus only
:acknowledged Jesus as a teacher come from God. He HAD NOT acknowledged
:Jesus Christ as his personal Lord and Savior like a born again Christian
:has.
Before Jesus spoke to Nicodemus there was no terminology for Nicidemus
to use other than "a teacher from God." The phrase "born again" was
introduced in Jesus' reply to Nicodemus, and the idea of Jesus as
Saviour is presented after the conversation between Jesus and Nicodemus.
:Nicodemus had never truly seen himself as lost and deserving of hell.
This is not so obvious. John doesn't tell us much about what
Nicodemus believed. The phrase "lost and deserving of hell" is not
found in the conversation either. So, he may have believed he
was righteous in his role as a Pharisee, but maybe he knew that he
could not but fail to keep the law perfectly, even though he would
try. John doesn't say anything about this, and we can only speculate.
[...]
:My other point is that salvation is NOT a tingly feeling.
:Being born again is not the after effect of conversion. Conversion
:is being born again. Trusting in a feeling (rather than
:repenting to God the Father and placing all your faith in the
:Lord Jesus Christ to save you) IS NOT Bible salvation.
:I'm not suggesting what Michael was trying to say in this last paragraph.
:I'm just clarifying, here.
We agree (I think -- your original article seemed to indicate
otherwise). But you cannot then ask a Christian "Are you really sure
you're saved?" which is what your original article also was asking.
:K. Paulson
:N. D. S. U. student
:1372 32nd Street South West #20
:Fargo, ND 58013
Mike (goo)
--
Michael C. Horsch Department of Computer Science
horsch@cs.ubc.ca University of British Columbia
llo@nuchat.sccsi.com (Larry Overacker) (06/22/91)
In article <Jun.13.23.23.53.1991.15693@athos.rutgers.edu> NU169273@vm1.nodak.edu writes: >Anyways, my point is Nicodemus only >acknowledged Jesus as a teacher come from God. He HAD NOT acknowledged >Jesus Christ as his personal Lord and Savior like a born again Christian >has. Nicodemus had never truly seen himself as lost and deserving of hell. >I believe Nicodemus was being honest with himself in that he was missing This concept of accepting Jesus as personal Lord and Savior is very recent in Church history and is NOT found in the Bible. Yes, the Bible speaks of Jesus as our Lord and Savior, but the commonly accepted born again experience commonly promoted in Protestant churches is an not based upon direct biblical evidence. >My other point is that salvation is NOT a tingly feeling. >Being born again is not the after effect of conversion. Conversion >is being born again. Trusting in a feeling (rather than This is also not strictly supported by John's text. Indeed, you must be born again. No Orthodox or Catholic or Protestant Christian would differ on that point; however, Jesus then relates to us just what it means to be born again. It is to be born of water and of the Spirit. In the Orthodox view, this means the inner transformation that God effects in us through the sacraments of Baptism and Chrismation (laying on of hands). Being born again has been understood by most Christians over the past 2000 years to mean exactly this. Other meanings may apply, but alternate readings and interpretations of Scripture should not be described as normative. The practice of millions of Christians over the millenia that have sought to follow Christ with all their being are not defective simply because they did not have a 20th century evangelical protestant born again conversion experience. >repenting to God the Father and placing all your faith in the >Lord Jesus Christ to save you) IS NOT Bible salvation. >I'm not suggesting what Michael was trying to say in this last paragraph. >I'm just clarifying, here. -- ============================================================================ Larry Overacker Art is not a mirror held up to reality, but a hammer with which to shape it. bertolt brecht