[net.lan] Optical Network Links

geoffb@nrcvax.UUCP (05/22/86)

	A short followup to my article of several months ago concerning
Ethernet repeaters/extenders.

	Many folks seem to desire an optical link for network extension, in the
case where fiber is too expensive or difficult to install, such as between
buildings in a campus environment. I turned up the following interesting
device/company.(NO, I don't work for them -:))

	Device: Optical Link, Dual IR diode/Fresnel Lens Assembly
		Range 250-400 meters
		Bandwidth 20mhz (higher with shorter ranges, can be cranked up)
		Aiming - Telescopic Sight
		Cost ~ $3000 per side.
		Accepts TTL signals. This thing is currently passing ProNet
		signals. Adapting an 802.3 transceiver to it in progress.

	Device: Optical Link, IR Laser/Fresnel Lens Assy
		Range 1km
		Bandwidth 100mhz (Also can be cranked up)
		Aiming - Telescopic Sight
		Cost ~ $7000 per side
		Accepts TTL signals. Currently is repeating T1 signals. 
		Ethernet transceiver being adapted.

	Company: Meret Laser, Santa Monica, California USA
		Contact: John Medved 213-828-7496

	As usual, at these frequencies (IR), you can expect attenuation in
heavy fog , caveat user. Hope this helps some out there who need to net
multiple bulildings together.


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phil@amdcad.UUCP (Phil Ngai) (05/23/86)

In article <661@nrcvax.UUCP> geoffb@nrcvax.UUCP (G. Geoffrey Baehr) writes:
>	Device: Optical Link, IR Laser/Fresnel Lens Assy
>		Range 1km
>		Bandwidth 100mhz (Also can be cranked up)
>		Aiming - Telescopic Sight
>		Cost ~ $7000 per side
>		Accepts TTL signals. Currently is repeating T1 signals. 
>		Ethernet transceiver being adapted.

I'm not sure of what you mean by "Ethernet transceiver being adapted"
but if it's what I'm afraid of (extending the distance between a
controller and a transceiver from 50 meters to 1000 meters) I would
like to go through a simple calculation. Assume light travels at 1
nS/foot and there are 3 feet per meter. Then light takes 3000 nS to
travel 1000 meters, 6000 nS to make the round trip. Ethernet heartbeat
is supposed to be sent after the end of the transmission. If the
transceiver returned heartbeat immediately after it perceived the end
of transmission, the controller would not see heartbeat until 6 uS
after it ended its transmission. Unless you "adapted" the transceiver,
it would actually delay before asserting heartbeat.

This is well outside the spec for both Ethernet 2 and IEEE 802.3.

You should also be sure the optical link does not add a lot of timing
jitter. Ethernet can not accept very much before it starts having
trouble decoding the signal. We're talking budgets on the order of
1 nS for the transceiver cable. (from memory, I could be off by
a couple of nS)

Finally, what about radiological safety hazards? Does this device
require eye protection?
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mike@amdcad.UUCP (Mike Parker) (05/23/86)

In article <11771@amdcad.UUCP> phil@amdcad.UUCP (Phil Ngai) writes:
>nS/foot and there are 3 feet per meter. Then light takes 3000 nS to
>travel 1000 meters, 6000 nS to make the round trip. Ethernet heartbeat
>is supposed to be sent after the end of the transmission. If the
>transceiver returned heartbeat immediately after it perceived the end
>of transmission, the controller would not see heartbeat until 6 uS
>after it ended its transmission. Unless you "adapted" the transceiver,
>it would actually delay before asserting heartbeat.
>
>This is well outside the spec for both Ethernet 2 and IEEE 802.3.
>

This is not the only problem. The Ethernet 802.3 spec says that the
transmitting controller can expect to see its own data coming back on the
RD pair within 900nS of starting to send it out on the TD pair. If it does
not then it can assume that the transceiver has failed and cease transmitting.
I am not certain but I am told that the Intel LANCE depends on this
"sidetone" to work.

Mike

Disclaimer: Yep, I work for AMD and we make a LANCE too, but I'm a CAD
guy and really don't know anything at all about ethernet. My opinion
is not that of my employer.


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