[comp.virus] new network-virus group?

BACON@MTUS5.BITNET (Jeffery K. Bacon) (07/01/89)

     A little while ago, there was some hashing about the overly
pcoriented direction of this list or something like that. (Forgive me,
I had 4+ week's worth of mail to catch up on in the past 1-1/2 wks,
and it's been a while since I read the virus-l notebook - which was
sizeable. So...)

     Anyway. I don't mean to hash on the pc virus gurus and the pc virus
problems - I will definitely agree, they are very serious, and need much
attention. In fact, I will say right here and now that THIS netgroup, in
my wide and varied experience, is one of THE most productive and useful
groups I have EVER seen ANYWHERE in netland. (Please note that when I say
'PC', I mean 'personal computer' in general, not IBM-PC&clones.) This of
course needs to continue.

     My thought here is that the group has kind of shifted directions
towards the PC environment. But the networking environment and the issues
surrounding it are very different. There are of course no major network
virus dangers right now, but network security and finding loopholes is
always a major concern. Is there a place for another list concerning
viruses in the network and PC-NFS/LAN environment?

     I remain kind of neutral on the issue, I just bring it up here for
thought. There might be some overlap with VIRUS-L as it is, or perhaps
with the SECURITY list, that might want to be considered. But I personally
know that most of what passes thru VIRUS-L nowadays is of little interest
to me because I rarely if ever work with pc's. I imagine there are others
who are like me here too.

     Whaddya think? Instead of discussing it here, it might be better to
perhaps have the comments sent to me (bacon@mtus5.bitnet) and I'll
compile them. I'll leave that to Ken to decide.

[Ed. Thanks for offering to compile the "votes", Jeff - I hope you're
prepared for some more mail to wade through!  :-) I've received lots
of requests for, among other things, a Mac-only and a PC-only list.
If the readers feel that it is time to split the already heavy traffic
into separate groups, then it would seem (to me) to make sense to have
a Net-only group.  I also think that if such a split is desired, then
we'd have to find a moderator/digestifier for each group, since I
don't think that I'll have enough time to handle all three (or however
many) groups.  So, be careful what you ask for, you just may get it.
Feedback, both positive and negative, is appreciated.]

Jeffery Bacon
Academic Computing Svcs, Michigan Technological University
bitnet: <bacon@mtus5>  uucp: <backbone>!rutgers!umix!anet!bacos

kelly@uts.amdahl.com (Kelly Goen) (07/24/89)

>      A little while ago, there was some hashing about the overly
> pcoriented direction of this list or something like that. (Forgive me,
> I had 4+ week's worth of mail to catch up on in the past 1-1/2 wks,
> and it's been a while since I read the virus-l notebook - which was
> sizeable. So...)
[...]
>      My thought here is that the group has kind of shifted directions
> towards the PC environment. But the networking environment and the issues
> surrounding it are very different. There are of course no major network
> virus dangers right now, but network security and finding loopholes is
> always a major concern. Is there a place for another list concerning
> viruses in the network and PC-NFS/LAN environment?

Actually given RPC's(Remote Procedure calls) and other given holes in
present lan systems they are as vunerable as any non-protected system
nowadays!!  My vote would have to be yes lets cover these issues also
I just hope the vendors are listening!!
                                     cheers
                                     kelly