[comp.virus] "Computer Condom"

dmg@lid.mitre.org (David Gursky) (07/29/89)

[From the Seattle Weekly, 5/3/89]

PUT A CONDOM ON YOUR COMPUTER

Every worry that your computer might be hanging out in a network where it
will pick up some disgusting virus?  Empirical Research Systems of Tacoma
suggests you supply it with one of their "computer condoms".  This high-tech
prophylactic is a combination of hardware and software embodied in a
controller card that simply replaces the one already in the machine.  Rick
Cummings, the company's president, says the system "stops all viruses" by
monitoring the user network, the keyboard, and the program in use.  He notes
that the system is programmable to alter the parameters of its control on
any given machine, but he guarantees that, "when programmed to your
requirements, it will not allow viruses to enter."

The technology was developed through successful efforts to protect a group of
European banks from the massive virus that penetrated European computer
networks last autumn.  "Naturally these became our first orders," Cummings
says.  He has since picked up an additional 2500 firm orders in Europe, with
5000 more contingent on inspection of the product.  In the United States, the
product has been reviewed by Boeing Computer Services and computer technicians
at the UW.  It will be on the domestic market "early next autumn at a cost of
under $1000," Cummings says.

DG -- Pardon me while I laugh uncontrollably.

hassler@nap1.arpa (Barry D. Hassler) (08/01/89)

In article <0003.8907311200.AA25265@ge.sei.cmu.edu> dmg@lid.mitre.org (David Gu
rsky) writes:
>[From the Seattle Weekly, 5/3/89]
>
>PUT A CONDOM ON YOUR COMPUTER
>
>...
>Cummings, the company's president, says the system "stops all viruses" by
>monitoring the user network, the keyboard, and the program in use.  He notes
>that the system is programmable to alter the parameters of its control on
>any given machine, but he guarantees that, "when programmed to your
>requirements, it will not allow viruses to enter."

Pardon me for my opinions (and lack of expertise in viral control),  but  I
think  these  types  of products are dangerous to the purchaser, while most
likely being especially profitable for the seller. I just  saw  a  copy  of
this  floating around to some senior management-types after being forwarded
several times, and dug up this copy to bounce my two cents off.

First of all, I don't see any method which can  be  guaranteed  to  protect
against  all  viruses (of course the "when programmed to your requirements"
pretty well covers all bases, doesn't it?). Naturally, specific viruses  or
methods   of   attach  can  be  covered  with  various  types  of  watchdog
software/hardware, but I don't think  it  is  possible  to  cover  all  the
avenues in any way.

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Barry D. Hassler				hassler@asd.wpafb.af.mil
System Software Analyst				(513) 427-6369
Control Data Corporation

kelly@uts.amdahl.com (Kelly Goen) (08/02/89)

hahahahahahahahah!!!!!!! right chief just like swamp land in them thar
everglades... seriously though things will not improve until vendors
start going for protected mode and other tricks...I am talking about
386's and 68030's here... maybe something could be done in this area
with charge cars on a 286 but I doubt it... your need that virtual
8086 partition on the 386 to have any real safety and have to be
operating protected mode to take advantage of it(DESQVIEW 386,
THD386.sys etc) after that then there are still so many ways to get
in!!
                         cheers
                         kelly