[comp.virus] Responses to F-PROT query

sigurd@vax1.udel.edu (Sigurd Andersen) (08/14/90)

I ( sigurd@vax1.udel.edu ) posted a message, summarized by:
> I'd like to know if anyone has reviewed or tested [F-PROT, a set of
> programs by Fridrik Skulason] and what their experience has been.

Thanks to Y. Radai for posting a response to my query.  For those who
might want to know what other responses I got, here they are, with
authors' names removed (in case they want anonymity - but location
left, to show they're "real" people).

From: ...umich.edu	Date: Fri, 3 Aug 90 16:55:18 EDT

	It is great.  Cheap, SIMPLE, and contains tips on how to guard
against viruses.  It can be used to check memory, hard disks, floppies,
and it can be set up as a memory resident watchdog.  It has
documentation on the symptoms of several hundred viruses.
	The cost is $15.00 or $1.00/computer for 15-500 computers and
$2.00 above that.  The author is Fridrik Skulason at frisk@rhi.hi.is
or BOX 7180, IS-127 Reykjavik, Iceland.
	As opposed to Mcafee's SCAN; I have been a member of virus-L
for over 2 months and have seen a few complaints about SCAN but none
about FPROT.
	You can certainly afford to invest $15.00 to see whether my
enthusiasm is merited.	P.

From: <...@WEIZMANN.BITNET>	Date: Sat, 04 Aug 90 19:13:53 +0300

Hello,
I experienced the FPROT package.  I found it to be good in removing
but a bit slow when searching for viruses in memory.
If you don't care for speed use it.  It's a very good package.


From: ...@polaris.utu.fi	Date: Sun, 5 Aug 90 14:52:15 +0300

In comp.virus you write:
	[ ... part of my original message removed ]

Yes, I have tested F-PROT versions 1.07-1.12 and found them excellent.
I've been in contact with Petteri Jarvinen, a well-known (in Finland:-)
guy who has somewhat more experience of viruses, and he has told me
that F-PROT *is* good.
	...

>From ...@OBERLIN.EDU	Mon Aug  6 15:43:11 1990

We've decided to use F-PROT here at Oberlin College; we've now "bought"
enough licenses to have some of my colleagues guinea-pig it.  (I have
been the only tester here so far, and my other job duties leave me far
too little time to test any program adequately).

The reasons we've chosen F-PROT are these:
1) It seems to have the best price-performance ratio.
   (We can't afford SCAN!)
2) Frisk seems to update it with sufficient frequency.
3) Based on his contributions to VIRUS-L, Frisk seems
   to "know his stuff."

I haven't taken a look at version 1.12 yet.  One problem with versions
1.11 and earlier is that they are not effortless to install.  My hope
is to work up some sort of batch procedure which will simplify the
installation.
	...
	Houck Computing Center   Oberlin College   Oberlin, OH  44074

frisk@rhi.hi.is (Fridrik Skulason) (08/15/90)

Well, it is nice to know that people like my programs, but I just wanted to
add a few comments about F-PROT.

    Version 1.12 is the latest available, but it is not 100% up to date.
    The reason is that a number of new viruses arrived while I was on
    vacation, and I am busy adding the detection/removal of them to version
    1.13, which will be distributed sometimes around Sept 1. Detecting the
    viruses is of course just a matter of finding a good search pattern, but
    writing a disinfector for every virus takes a bit of time.

    The viruses not detected by 1.12 include some of the latest Bulgarian
    viruses (2100, the Bulgarian "Tiny" family) as well as some recent
    viruses from Taiwan, and a few other (Joshi, Casper, Anti-CAD and
    Subliminal + a few more).  I am working on bringing the program up to date
    again, but it will take me a few more days.

    Some people have complained that the programs are a bit hard to use and
    install.  I know - I know.... :-)   I am working on what I call version 2,
    which is much improved in this area - Menus, auto-install etc.

    I have not yet had the time to finish version 2, but when I do, I have
    do decide whether to...

    ...turn version 2.x into a commercial program, quite serparate from the
    sharevare version 1.x.  The commercial program would of course be more
    expensive, but buyers would get telephone support and a printed manual.

    ...make 2.0 shareware as well - personally I would want to make it
    freeware, but I just cannot afford it .... see below...

    What I do depends partially on how much money I make from registration.
    Writing/distributing F-PROT is no personal gold mine - in fact, my
    involvement in the anti-virus area has probably resulted in a reduction
    in my income - as the virus-related work continues to increase, I have
    had to cut back my work outside the university.

    I have asked people registering a copy for a single computer to send
    in $15.  I have, however, discovered that the work involved in cashing
    the checks and mailing out a new copy of the program takes up too much
    of my time.

    It has also turned out that the amounts I receive are usually either $15
    (single copy) or $500 (500+ machines), so what I am planning to do is
    make the programs free of charge to individuals, using them on a single
    computer.

    Anyhow - I'm not 100% sure what I will do - I just want to spend my
    time programming, not mailing out programs.... :-)

    The problem is also that even though I would like to make the programs
    free of charge to anybody, I have to make a living from this as I spend
    50% of my time on viruses and F-PROT.  Freeware programs may be possible
    on the Mac, with only 10-20 viruses, but on the PC with over 200 different
    virus variants they are totally impractical.

    So, this is the situation.  I must assure you, that whatever happens I
    will continue to support the program and update it in one form or another.

 -frisk

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