[net.auto] Restrictive Headlight Laws

ge (08/20/82)

	    Having good night vision, I do not need to drive with
	    headlights at night.  Yet I am forced to buy cars with
	    headlights, to use them at night, and at inspection time to
	    have them in good working condition.

	    Of course, using headlights improves your night vision
	    somewhat, BUT SOME PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO USE THEIR
	    HEADLIGHTS, even at their low price.  The choice is clear
	    and many, many people would prefer to take the risk rather
	    than pay the price of reaching over to turn their
	    headlights on.  That's their choice, and in a 'free
	    country' people are free to take risks, despite the apparent
	    foolishness of such behavior.  Individuals are FREE TO
	    FAIL, free to do foolish or stupid things.

	    The desire of millions of purchasers of automobile to NOT
	    purchase the non-optional headlights is clear.  Millions
	    are being forced to purchase things which they do not want
	    and will not use even after being forced to buy them.

	    The more consistent advocates of using such force claim
	    that we ALL suffer.  What about the difficulty I have in
	    seeing when blinded by others' high beams?  With my
	    headlights out, I am not imposing on their ability to
	    drive, so how do we ALL suffer?

	    The Constitition does not require us to use headlights.
	    Mandatory headlight usage is the result of fluffy-headed
	    knee-jerk bureaucrats who believe that they can legislate
	    'better' behaviour.  They are the ones who have given us
	    speed limits, headlights and airbags.  Europe has shown us
	    that they can do without these things: if they have an
	    automobile mortality rate three times as large as ours,
	    it's because the Frogs and Krauts can't drive anyway!

mickey (08/20/82)

		(Minor Flame)

I hope the person who never wants to use their headlights is never in
their car at the same time as I am. I DON'T want to meet you on a dark
rainy night! I have always felt that everyone should have their headlights
on a sunset, not for the driver, but for the rest of us that have to see
you out there (pulling out of blind alleys, etc.). I have had Q-H lights
in my car ever since Mass. made it legal, long before the rest of the
uncivilized states, and I will continue to use them AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

My scariest moment of 15 years of driving is when I attempted a u-turn
on what I thought was a deserted street, only to have some JACK-ASS
miss me by inches at 50 MPH because I had NO IDEA he was behind me. 

The decision to use seatbelts or airbags or helments is appropriate enough
for discussion, but just keep your headlights on. (for the rest of us!)

		(Flame off)

jj (08/20/82)

	This article on "Restrictive Headlight Laws" is one
of the most blatant attempts at misdirection that I have
ever had the opportunity to see.  

1).	The premise fails on a night with overcast sky's, for example.
Are you responsible enough to stay off the roads them.

2)  	Are you willing to assume the responsibility if someone
hits you while you are driving around in the dark?  It IS your
responsibitily to be seen as well as see. (Check it out, that's
absolutely right.)  Such a person might be turning on the road that
you are driving down in absolute darkness and get hit, and quite justifiably
argue that:
"HE (I am presuming gender for linguistic reasons.) WAS ATTEMPTING TO
BE INVISIBLE, AND HE SUCCEEDED, I HIT HIM.  IT'S HIS FAULT"

This is a clearcut case when the person without headlights forces
the other person to make a mistake. (i.e. entrapment of a sort)
While this arguement can be extended to extremes, and result in
the current legal system<which, by the way, is what happened> the
ability to entrap a person must be limited in some way.

As one may notice, I have not even commented on the need for headlights.
I will leave attacking absurdity to the  rest of the net.
Cherio
rabbit!jj

ark (08/20/82)

My father once told me that when he learned to drive, it
was ILLEGAL to have your headlights on inside New York city
limits, even at night.  The presumption was that the street
lights were good enough that headlights were a liability.
I know that in driving into NY through one of the tunnels,
I always turn my headlights off in the tunnel (one is supposed
to do that), and frequently forget to turn them back on again
once in Manhattan -- the street lights are so bright that it
is difficult to see if they are on or not.

Then, on the other hand, there is Sweden, where headlights must
be on all the time your engine is running, day or night.  This
is probably because there is so much dusk in Sweden.  Cars made
in Sweden for sale there do not have headlight switches.

wagner (08/21/82)

Come on, guys, I think it is pretty obvious that the original
article was sarcastic.  Notice that the text was indented -
I would guess it was edited with berkmail from the original.

Michael Wagner

djh (08/21/82)

Who needs a Constitution anyway!
The colonies got along fine without one for many years.
Let freedom ring!

sorry

ralph (08/23/82)

A quicky on headlights:
Leave them on ALL the time.  The Toronto Transit Commission did a 1 year study a
few years back.  They had half the bus have their lights on all the time, the
other half only during rain or at night.  Busses were randomly selected
(indepented of driver, etc.) for lights/no lights.
How hard is it to hit a bus is broad daylight?
SIGNIFICANTLY easier if it doesn't have its lights on!
All busses in Toronto have their lights on all the time.
I have my Q-H lights on all the time.
The only time I have come close to hitting other cars, the other car has been
black or grey without its lights on, usually in rain.
I wear seatbelts, but I would rather not use them

ralph hill
...!decvax!utzoo!utcsrgv!ralph

kiessig (09/21/82)

#R:utcsrgv:-53500:fortune:1500002:000:263
fortune!kiessig    Aug 25 17:47:00 1982

	And then there was person who was stopped during the energy
shortage in 1975 for driving with no headlights at night.  When the
officer told him to get his lights fixed, the gentleman said, "Oh,
my lights work fine.  I was just conserving energy."

Rick Kiessig