billr@sri-unix (11/09/82)
Even though the debate seems to have died, I thought I'd post this article, which has excerpts from an editorial in the SAAB Club newsletter. "The first myth about snow tires that I would like to explode is the one that 'good radials are better on ice than snow tires.' This one is left over from comparisons of radials with old bias-ply tractor-lugged type snow tires. The best modern radial snows are made of a rubber compound known as 'hydrophilic,' which means the rubber has an affinity for water. Since it is the thin layer of water the tire produces by compressing the ice that makes the ice slippery, tires with hydrophilic rubber compounds have very good traction on the ice. So radial snows with hydrophilic rubber have much better grip on icy surfaces than do regular radial tires or non-hydrophilic snows." "The European tire manufacturers were the first to develop and use hydrophilic compounds, so this rubber is most common in their tires. It seems the Americans and Japanese snow tires are by and large non-hydrophilic. An exception to this general rule of thumb seems to be Michelin, whose tires are not (to my know- ledge) hydrophilic." "Vredestein, Kleber, Continental and Gislaved all make hydro- philic snow tires .... I have heard many good recommendations for the Swedish-made Gislaved's, but Conti's are probably the most widely distibuted. Jeff Delahorne, editor" He then goes on to say that he tried Semperits (non-hydro) and Vredessteins (hydro) last year and found the Semperits were hard rubber (long lasting), good traction in deep snow, noisy and poor traction on ice. The Vred's were a softer rubber, much better on ice, quiter and had a good grip in deep snow. -Bill Randle Tektronix, Inc. {dec or ucb}vax!teklabs!tekcrd!billr (uucp) billr@tektronix (CSnet) billr.tektronix@udel-relay (ARPA)
kos (11/17/82)
#R:tekcrd:-78000:uiucdcs:7700011:000:324 uiucdcs!kos Nov 16 19:02:00 1982 I think the "standard radial tires" everyone was typing about were actually the "four-season" tires that many manufacturers are coming out with. Supposedly, most of these use hydrophilic tread compounds, with a little extra gunk thrown in to increase mileage. Wouldn't these be comparable to the hydrophilic snows on ice?