frotz@drivax.UUCP (Frotz) (05/31/90)
Hello Bart and Dan... There have been a few people on the net requesting MUSH for DOS and many here locally that are very interested. While PC MUSH 6.5 from simtel is sufficient for some purposes, it would be nice to be able to take the sources and modify them as needed. Do you know who the PC MUSH 6.5 author (of the PC port) is and where he can be reach? Alternately, do you have any feelings about a PC port of 7.1? (i.e. What you will accept in the way of changes to Mush that will make future ports to DOS easier? Just interested. I may be moving into a job where I can justify some or all of this work as work related (but not under company ownership). The reason I want to be able to modify the sources is the I need to add support for the UU[PC][CP] clone, but also want to support incoming news.... advTHANKSance -- Frotz@Digital Research, Incorporated amdahl!drivax!frotz (email) Graphics Business Unit (408) 647-6570 (vmail) 70 Garden Court, B15 (408) 649-3896 Monterey, California 93940 Ask for John Fa'atuai [This is News. This is your brain on News. Any questions?]
schaefer@ogicse.ogi.edu (Barton E. Schaefer) (06/01/90)
In article <AGNK3VF@drivax.UUCP> frotz@drivax.UUCP writes: } } There have been a few people on the net requesting MUSH for } DOS and many here locally that are very interested. While PC MUSH 6.5 } from simtel is sufficient for some purposes, it would be nice to be } able to take the sources and modify them as needed. Do you know who } the PC MUSH 6.5 author (of the PC port) is and where he can be reach? I've sent the non-SunView sources for 7.1.1 to Mike O'Carroll, whose name I probably just misspelled, and who did the 6.5 and 7.0 DOS ports. He is presumably working on merging his 7.0 porting changes into the new version. Perhaps if he sees this he'll comment on his progress; I seem to have lost his most recent E-mail address. An older one that should still work is uunet!ukc!lena!moc. -- Bart Schaefer schaefer@cse.ogi.edu
frotz@drivax.UUCP (Frotz) (06/02/90)
schaefer@ogicse.ogi.edu (Barton E. Schaefer) writes:
] I've sent the non-SunView sources for 7.1.1 to Mike O'Carroll, whose
] name I probably just misspelled, and who did the 6.5 and 7.0 DOS ports.
] He is presumably working on merging his 7.0 porting changes into the
] new version. Perhaps if he sees this he'll comment on his progress;
] I seem to have lost his most recent E-mail address. An older one that
] should still work is uunet!ukc!lena!moc.
Mike, are you out there?
I grabbed the PCMush 6.5 archive from Simtel20. It claimed to have
sources but didn't, and it didn't have any path to Mike that I could
find in the maps (it did reference lena, but not the uunet!ukc
part...)
Ideally, what I would like to do is get PCMush and Waffle to co-exist.
on top of some UUCP/UUPC implementation. First, I need sources to
PCMush so that I can play with it and see what needs to be done to
Waffle by root!darkside.com...
advTHANKSance
-- Frotz@Digital Research, Incorporated amdahl!drivax!frotz (email)
Graphics Business Unit (408) 647-6570 (vmail)
70 Garden Court, B15 (408) 649-3896
Monterey, California 93940 Ask for John Fa'atuai
[This is News. This is your brain on News. Any questions?]dalew@twiki.PDX.COM (Dale A. Weber) (06/06/90)
frotz@drivax.UUCP (Frotz) writes: > Ideally, what I would like to do is get PCMush and Waffle to co-exist. > on top of some UUCP/UUPC implementation. First, I need sources to > PCMush so that I can play with it and see what needs to be done to > Waffle by root!darkside.com... I'd be _very_ interested in something like this also. I've got Turbo C v2.0 Professional here and wouldn't mind helping in such an effort. I am going to see if I can interface smail2.5/PC to Waffle also, as soon as I get my hands on the source, or maybe that of smail3.x (or even both). I see this rather large archive of smail.3.1.19 sitting on uunet that I have been tempted to grab... ;-) I haven't seen source for mush v7.1.1 but I think that too is sitting on uunet just waiting... ;-) It _must_ include source, but would be for UNIX and need re-porting over to DOS. Dale -- UUCP: ..!uunet!twiki!dalew OR ..!{sun!nosun, tektronix}!tessi!twiki!dalew INTERNET: dalew@pdx.com, dalew@twiki.pdx.com BBS: +1(503)239-4960, 24 Hours, 1200/2400 Bps MNP 1-5, PCPable via ORPOR
dell@Apple.COM (Thomas E. Dell) (06/06/90)
An entity known as "Frotz" writes: >> Ideally, what I would like to do is get PCMush and Waffle to co-exist. >> on top of some UUCP/UUPC implementation. First, I need sources to >> PCMush so that I can play with it and see what needs to be done to >> Waffle by root!darkside.com... Not sure exactly what this would require, but I am fairly certain changes to Waffle would be reasonable in nature. I suspect it will involve configuring Waffle's local delivery mechanism. Currently this is not possible for users, but Waf/1.63 is going to be significantly easier to deal with something like this. Dale Weber responds: > I'd be _very_ interested in something like this also. I've got Turbo C >v2.0 Professional here and wouldn't mind helping in such an effort. I am >going to see if I can interface smail2.5/PC to Waffle also, as soon as I >get my hands on the source, or maybe that of smail3.x (or even both). I >see this rather large archive of smail.3.1.19 sitting on uunet that I >have been tempted to grab... ;-) I haven't seen source for mush v7.1.1 I would not recommend porting smail3 to DOS. The sources are huge, and an order of magnitude more Unix specific than smail2.5. There is someone who has smail2.5/PC almost working with Waffle, but I'm not sure if that person wants his name given out at this time. This probably won't be as useful in a bit, since many of smail's features will be "standard equipment" in v1.63. >but I think that too is sitting on uunet just waiting... ;-) It _must_ >include source, but would be for UNIX and need re-porting over to DOS. "Sir, that's NOT my idea of fun.." ...Tom dell@vox.darkside.com / Thomas E Dell
trier@shasta.scl.cwru.edu (Stephen Trier) (06/07/90)
Dale Weber writes: > I'd be _very_ interested in something like this also. I've got Turbo C >v2.0 Professional here and wouldn't mind helping in such an effort. I am >going to see if I can interface smail2.5/PC to Waffle also, as soon as I >get my hands on the source, or maybe that of smail3.x (or even both). I >see this rather large archive of smail.3.1.19 sitting on uunet that I >have been tempted to grab... ;-) I haven't seen source for mush v7.1.1 I wish you luck with the Waffle link to smail/PC! I'll be quite interested if you manage to pull it off. smail/PC itself will be pretty happy in non-UUPC/Mush-PC environments. All you need to do is to arrange to call smail (actually, rmail) appropriately, and then write a version of lmail to create the kind of mailbox you need. It should generally be pretty easy. In article <41660@apple.Apple.COM> dell@Apple.COM (Thomas E. Dell) writes: >I would not recommend porting smail3 to DOS. The sources are >huge, and an order of magnitude more Unix specific than smail2.5. I agree. I ported smail2.5 because it was, to paraphrase the README file, "small and simple". It was a tight fit in a PC with Mush running, and I'm working on cutting the memory usage some more. (Deliver 2.0, anyone? :-) ) I haven't even bothered looking at smail3.1 yet; it's just too big to fit into 640K with Mush. Incidentally, the original memory consumption of smail/PC was ~700K, worst case. smail/PC's worst case requirements are around 240K, and I'm working on cutting that to 120K. And about Mush 7.1.1, Dale Weber writes: >but I think that too is sitting on uunet just waiting... ;-) It _must_ >include source, but would be for UNIX and need re-porting over to DOS. Mark O'Carroll, who did the Mush-PC ports in the past, is working on 7.1. He had a 7.0 port running, but 7.1 was released well before he was ready to release it. The word is "Reasonably Soon Now", although I will warn you that he tends to have a very long (and very thorough) testing cycle. Another warning: it's going to be big. I believe that Mush-PC 7.1 won't be able to fit in memory without overlays. That's not much of a loss to smail/PC users, since smail/PC already requires running the overlay version of Mush 6.5. <=> Stephen Trier sct%seldon@skybridge.SCL.CWRU.Edu {sun,att,decvax}!cwjcc!skybridge!seldon!sct sct@po.CWRU.Edu