[comp.mail.mush] Mail sent message in mush???

prt7u@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Peter R. Thorsen Jr) (03/20/91)

Howdy,

I'm sure this question has been raised before so please be patient
with me for asking again.  I have recently started using mush here
at work.  On other systems I have used the mailer usually sends you
a little message on the screen when your message has been sent to
the recipient's computer.  Is there a way to do this using mush?

I haven't had any problems with mail not getting to where it is
supposed to.  But I would like the assurance of knowing that it made
it to it's destination safely.

Please reply via e-mail.

Thanks,

Pete



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schaefer@ogicse.ogi.edu (Barton E. Schaefer) (03/27/91)

In article <1991Mar20.043627.29699@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> prt7u@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Peter R. Thorsen Jr) writes:
} Howdy,
} 
} I'm sure this question has been raised before so please be patient
} with me for asking again.  I have recently started using mush here
} at work.  On other systems I have used the mailer usually sends you
} a little message on the screen when your message has been sent to
} the recipient's computer.  Is there a way to do this using mush?

You can "set verbose" in your .mushrc file, but that will slow mush
down a lot (and won't necessarily tell you the truth).  Mush creates
a new process to send the mail so that you don't have to wait for it
to be sent before you go on to do other things.  If you tell mush to
be verbose about it, then it'll wait while the mail is sent and tell
you everything you want to know.

However, there are several caveats.  If your computer really does
connect "directly" to the recipient's computer when sending mail,
you could be in for waits of many minutes for the transaction to
complete, depending on network traffic and other details.  If you are
only mailing to other computers within your own company, this may not
be a problem, but if you ever mail to somewhere far across the net
you could end up twiddling your thumbs for quite a while (at least
until your machine gives up and queues the mail for another try
later).

If your computer uses UUCP to transfer mail, then you may very quickly
get a message saying that the mail was "sent", but it's probably
fibbing -- in all likelyhood, the mail has only been placed in a spool
directory somewhere to wait for the next time UUCP decides to run.

} I haven't had any problems with mail not getting to where it is
} supposed to.  But I would like the assurance of knowing that it made
} it to it's destination safely.

In most cases, your mailer can't tell you this.  The only thing you
can do is request a return receipt, by using (in .mushrc):

my_hdr Return-Receipt-To: pete@virginia.edu

In this case, *if* the receiving mailer recognizes Return-Receipt-To
at all, you will be mailed a confirmation that the message arrived.

} Please reply via e-mail.

I did, but since mush-users doesn't seem to be gatewaying to/from the
net anymore (anyone know why?) I'm posting this as well.
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Bart Schaefer                                           schaefer@zipcode.com
Z-Code Software Corporation                             schaefer@cse.ogi.edu