[net.auto] New Legislation

lrd (12/09/82)

The following items are quoted from a column in the January, 1983
issue of CYCLE GUIDE magazine, that reports on current or pending
legislation of interest to motorcylists (and motorists in general).

	"Pennsylvania is considering adopting a law which has all
	the spirit of Nathanial Hawthorne and the Scarlet Letter.
	SB1561 proposes that motorists convicted of driving under
	the influence be issued special license plates, thereby
	marking them as transgressors.  Standard colors for Penn-
	sylvania plates are yellow with dark blue letters; con-
	victed offenders would get red plates with yellow letters,
	the same colors that Hester Prine was forced to wear."

	"The use of radar detectors no longer is illegal in
	Michigan.  A recent Supreme Court decision in that state
	has overturned a 1929 statute that state troopers had
	cited as grounds for confiscating detectors.  The 54-
	year-old law prohibited listening in on 'police radio'
	bands; the troopers were loosely interpreting that to
	include radar.  The Supreme Court didn't agree."

	"New Jersey is the latest state to propose legislation
	against the use of stereophonic headphones while operating
	a motor vehicle.  New Jersey's bill, AB 1750, goes one
	step further, however, and would also ban headphone use by
	pedestrians -- if they're on public roads.  Punishment
	would be the same -- whether on foot or on wheels; $75 for
	a first offense and $100 thereafter."

Comment:  I hope the Michigan action is used as a precedent for
	  similar action in the other states that ban the use of
	  detectors.  If I were a resident of either Pennsylvania
	  or New Jersey, I would certainly let my legislative
	  representatives know that I wanted them to support the
	  proposed bills -- particularly the Pennsylvania action!

I wonder if I should be wearing an asbestos suit -- I think I feel
a flame or two coming my way...

				L. R. DuBroff
				Bell Laboratories
				Naperville, Illinois

mark (12/09/82)

Oh really?  You think it should be a $75 fine for a pedestrian or driver
to wear headphones?  Boy, I'd like to see the Supreme Court handle that
one!

If you outlaw headphones for drivers, you had better outlaw all radios
that can drown out road noise, all luxury cars with such good sound
deadening that you can cut a diamond in the back, and you also had
better make it illegal for deaf people to drive.

jls (12/11/82)

 
What do they propose to do in Pennsylvania when the person driving under the
influence doesn't own a car? Also suppose that the person caught does own the
car but others in the family frequently drive it. With the different colored
plates, the wrong people get tagged with the "under the influence" label when
they drive the car. There are probably other problems with the idea.

hsc (12/14/82)

Pedestrians can change direction AWFUL fast.  I get nervous passing them,
and generally tap my horn before I go by if there's any chance they don't
notice me and might cut in my path.  I would be unhappy if the pedestrian
was wearing earphones (do I swing wide and chance hitting an oncoming car?
do I cruise up at 5 mph and display a sign that says "EXCUSE ME"?).
It's not fair that automobile drivers can have heavy soundproofing and
100-watt stereos, but so what?  I hit a kid once (just some light bruises,
and the court ruled it wasn't my fault); anything that will reduce the
chance of hitting another is OK with me.
I have enough to do looking out for cars; I don't want to impair
the little guys' ability to look out for me.
Harvey S. Cohen  BTL-LZ1C314 (201)576-6059 houxn!hsc
Lincroft, NJ (ABI 1/1/83)

laura (12/14/82)

	I think that any car driven by a person "under the influence"
should get the fancy plates.  Who knows -- maybe the people who will
drink and drive as a means of "thumbing their nose" at police and
"the establishment" in general will quake at the thought of risking the
wrath of their parents or spouses.   

	I figure that after 10 years or so, an offending car might be
awarded "normal" licence plates.  Of course, how many cars do you know
that last ten years?

					Laura Creighton
					decvax!utzoo!laura

burris (12/15/82)

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ihlpb!burris    Dec 14 12:34:00 1982


As in gun legislation - Cars do not commit crimes against society,
PEOPLE DO!!!!!

Dave Burris
ihopa!burris
BTL - Naperville

laura (12/17/82)

The simple solution posted here is also unworkable because it is difficult
to really count the cost of a drunk driving offense.

	Recently, two people  were killed in an accident when their
car was sideswiped by a drunk truck driver.  They both worked for the same
company and in fact were half of the entire programming staff.  After their
deaths, the company found that it could not train new people fast enough to
maintain their preliminary attempt to computerise.  Net loss for the company,
12K.  So they dropped their computer efforts, canned the third member of
the three man computer team, and went back to contracting their programming
out to "experts".  Six months later, they had to lay off some of their
non-technical staff to offset the costs which they could not cover.  They
claimed the "cost of computing required" as their reason to fire otherwise
acceptible employees.

	Still no relief.  The end result was that they suspended their
Toronto division and now only work in Montreal and Vancouver.  It was bad
planning for the company to sink so much resources and rely so heavily on
the three man programming staff, sure, but I believe that they could build
a reasonable case for suing the truck driver for a net loss which is now
in the hundreds of thousands.  

	Drunk drivers kill wonderful, useful, productive people.  We all
pay the cost.  When is the real cost of drunk driving going to be considered?

					Laura Creighton
					decvax!utzoo!laura

p.s.

	the truck driver received a $500 fine and a three month license
	suspension. (maybe a $250 fine -- I forget).  The cost of one
	of the funerals (required shipping the body to West Germany)
	was nearly $500, and the victims families were not compensated.
	It was a first offense for the truck driver.