[net.auto] fastest cars and muscle cars

wookie (12/20/82)

When we are talking about the fastest cars just what do we define as fast?
Most of the exotic cars from Europe are very fast in both acceleration and
handling and are what I consider to be good road or touring vehicals.  Here
in the U.S. however the old muscle cars were fantastic accelerators but
lousy handlers.  A case of this is the 1965 Pontiac Catalina 2+2.  This
is a full size (ie huge and 4400 lbs) Pontiac with a 421 Super Duty engine
touting 3 two barrel carbs. (I own one of these beauties!) It is certainly
2+2 in the true sports car meaning of the word.  Anyway check the 25th
aniversary issue of Car and Driver back in 1980 I believe.  There they
discuss the fastest cars from zero to sixty for the 25 years they had been
testing.  The fastest car they ever tested was the Pontiac Catalina 2+2
from 1965 with a zero to sixty time of 3.9 seconds!! (It had been "warmed
over" by Royal Pontiac the drag experts for Pontiacs)  The car remains
unbeaten in their tests to this day.  One car did beat it but that was
Bobby Rahals Can Am race car which they said didn't count as a production
car.  The Pontiac even beat out the AC Cobra 289 and AC Cobra 427 which
were tested the same year (65).  Amazing but it's in print.

By the way I too like those good old muscle cars if only they had todays
handling!
					Keith Bauer
					Bell Labs
					White Tiger Racing

wookie (12/20/82)

In my message about muscle cars the editor lost a "not" when I said the
+2 in the sports car
sense of the term!
					Keith Bauer
					Bell Labs  Murray Hill
					White Tiger Racing

wookie (12/21/82)

Well I checked the news and sure enough the second message correcting
the first message was wrong prompting a third.  

The Pontiac Catalina 2+2 is "NOT" a real 2+2 in the sports car sense of the
word!