[comp.soft-sys.andrew] Lost some mail

bobrow@parc.xerox.com (Danny Bobrow) (08/14/90)

I am a new aand relatively naive Andressw and Unix user.  I just lost a
rather long message I was composing; this distressed me as you might
imagine, and Bill Janssen said you would be interested. 

 While the composiition window was open, I noticed that a previous
message I thought I had kept a copy of was not aaround.  I went to the
Help document, and found out how to make that happen, and went into Set
Options.  Found lots of interesting options, and turned a number of
switches, including bcc.  Did no Alter's.  Then not understanding how to
get out of Set Options, I went back to the messages window and clicked
on a mail folder name.  Got the following message in the console window

<warning:ms>Segmentation Violation signal caught; checkpointed server state...

and the messages window disappeared.  Started messages again.  Then
looked for a *.CKP file with contents like my composed message. 
Couldn't find one anywhere with the right contents..  Sniff.  And I
thought this couldn't happen.  I'll try it again soon, after I make sure
I have read my mail and mailed everything.

nsb@THUMPER.BELLCORE.COM (Nathaniel Borenstein) (08/14/90)

Hmmm....  I just did an experiment, and it looks to me like sendmessage
checkpointing is totally broken.  I know it worked once upon a time, but
somewhere along the way some patch or something may have turned it off. 
As far as I can tell, message composition windows are no longer
checkpointing at all.  As the various options related to this
checkpointing suggest, I put a lot of effort into making this work once
upon a time.  I have no idea when or why it broke, but I suggest that it
should be added to the bug list, at the very least...  -- Nathaniel

nsb@THUMPER.BELLCORE.COM (Nathaniel Borenstein) (08/14/90)

So much for experiments.  Shortly after that experiment, my modem
connection died while I was composing mail.  I reconnected and, lo and
behold, though my processes had all died, my mail-in-composition had
been checkpointed.

So it isn't as simple as being totally broken, but it doesn't seem to be
checkpointing as often as it ought to.  Maybe it's only checkpointing on
something like a HUP signal, instead of the timer events it is supposed
to use?  At any rate, I don't think that the "Checkpointing
messageserver state..." messages are also indicating a checkpoint of
mail in progress, though they are supposed to...

honey@doom.ifs.umich.edu (Peter Honeyman) (08/16/90)

my composition window has the nasty habit of displaying "Checkpointing
messageserver state..." and never coming up for air.

	peter