[comp.soft-sys.andrew] Another strange WP problem...

wollman@SADYE.UVM.EDU (Garrett Wollman) (01/30/91)

I am presently telling the AMS programs to verify user names via WP,
which I assemble by hand (or at any rate, not manually).  Recently, I
found this problem when sending mail to a friend (and potential user)
in CUI:

I enter a To: address of tom.emerson.  Upon submission, cui tells me
The name 'Tom Emerson <tree@sadye.uvm.edu>' is ambiguous.
It then lists my alternatives:
"Tree,,," (others) <emerson@sadye.uvm.edu>
Tom Emerson (staff) <tree@sadye.uvm.edu>

I, knowing Tree, direct CUI to send it to the second alternative.  Wups!

The name 'Tom Emerson <tree@sadye.uvm.edu>' is ambiguous.
[and on it goes]

Now since we don't run AMDS (and I'm not sure TPTB can ever be convinced
to do so, unless I can solve problems like this before the Users
find out about them), the only way to get out of this situation is
to change the To: address to point to Tree on another machine.

Now my question is:
  1) Would AMDS do the same thing (AAAAUGH!)?
  2) How can I solve this, preferably without deleting the other
     account manually from WP (or changing the nickname)?

As a side issue, is it possible to get the WP-ized version of finger?

-GAWollman

Craig_Everhart@TRANSARC.COM (02/15/91)

Excerpts from internet.info-andrew: 29-Jan-91 Another strange WP
problem... Garrett Wollman@griffin. (1152)

> I enter a To: address of tom.emerson.  Upon submission, cui tells me
> The name 'Tom Emerson <tree@sadye.uvm.edu>' is ambiguous.
> It then lists my alternatives:
> "Tree,,," (others) <emerson@sadye.uvm.edu>
> Tom Emerson (staff) <tree@sadye.uvm.edu>

> I, knowing Tree, direct CUI to send it to the second alternative.  Wups!

> The name 'Tom Emerson <tree@sadye.uvm.edu>' is ambiguous.
> [and on it goes]

I'll admit that this is a bit odd.

The problem is that the fully-canonicalized address (local name
``tree'') isn't itself unique, since it matches the surname (or complete
name) of one account and the userid of another.  What do you believe
should happen to mail addressed to ``tree''?

Yes, it looks weird that CUI asks the question but isn't happy with the
answer that you want to give.  But maybe I can get away with calling
this a problem in the set of local names; maybe not.

AMDS wouldn't do this, since the canonicalized address list would look like:
"Tree,,," (others) <emerson+@sadye.uvm.edu>
Tom Emerson (staff) <tree+@sadye.uvm.edu>

and whichever one you chose would have the plus-sign decoration telling
AMDS (and CUI) that the preceding entity was a userid, not a user name.

I can look into getting the WP version of finger, but it's not a pretty thing.

		Craig