guido@cwi.nl (Guido van Rossum) (03/14/91)
I built andrew (patchlevel 9) on a Sun4 with color screen running SunOS 4.1 with X11R4 (recent patchlevel I assume). There is no configuration choice for this platform so I pretend it is 4.0 and complilation looks like it works smoothly. Then, several problems crop up. - "help" isn't built by default. When I build it manually it dumps core. Is there any other way to get at the documentation, so I know where to start? - The top-level README file doesn't tell me what to try first. I can call "ez" on a textfile but it looks pretty boring. - The default font used by "ez" appears to be "andyoffice12", which has funny icons instead of some upper case letters. What do I do to fix this? - The menus are weird. Is it really intentional that when I move to the center of a menu, the menu lying below and to the right of it pops up as soon as I am above it (but also still above the one on top of it)? I'd expect underlying menus to pop up only when I move outside the upper menu. - "ez" seems to dump core now and then (haven't dared to go in with the debugger yet). - I would really like to run it on a SGI IRIS 4D/25 running IRIX 3.3.2. Anybody got configuration files for that platform? Anybody got clues? Is it worthwile to keep trying to use Andrew, or should I give it up? Are the originators still developing this version? --Guido van Rossum, CWI, Amsterdam <guido@cwi.nl> "A thing of beauty is a joy till sunrise"
Craig_Everhart@TRANSARC.COM (03/19/91)
Excerpts from internet.info-andrew: 14-Mar-91 built andrew -- what next? Guido van Rossum@uunet.u (1438) > - "help" isn't built by default. When I build it manually it dumps core. > Is there any other way to get at the documentation, so I know where to > start? You need to add a line to your {andrew}/config/site.mcr or {andrew}/config/site.h file that looks like #define MK_HELP 1 to get this to be built automatically. There's an {andrew}/atk/help/doc/Maint.doc that gives some clues for how to build it. Nonetheless, it shouldn't be pointlessly dumping core. > - The top-level README file doesn't tell me what to try first. > I can call "ez" on a textfile but it looks pretty boring. Were you able to run Messages and look at the demo folder that the {andrew}/ams/demo installation created? That demo contains some interesting-looking insets. If you can get ez working but not Messages, you can run ez on the numeric-named files in the {andrew}ms/demo source area. > - The default font used by "ez" appears to be "andyoffice12", which > has funny icons instead of some upper case letters. What do I do to > fix this? I could be wrong, but I thought that the default font was andy10 or andysans10. In any case, you should be able to put the line *.bodyfont: andy12 into your $HOME/preferences, $HOME/.preferences, or $HOME/.Xdefaults file and get it to use andy12 as a default font, which should work better. > - The menus are weird. Is it really intentional that > when I move to the center of a menu, the menu lying below and to the > right of it pops up as soon as I am above it (but also still above the > one on top of it)? I'd expect underlying menus to pop up only when I > move outside the upper menu. Yes, this is intentional (sigh). There are preference settings to control this behavior, but I forget what they are for now. Craig
gk5g+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU (Gary Keim) (03/19/91)
Excerpts from misc: 14-Mar-91 built andrew -- what next? Guido van Rossum@uunet.u (1438) > I built andrew (patchlevel 9) on a Sun4 with color screen running > SunOS 4.1 with X11R4 (recent patchlevel I assume). There are problems with the current distribution on SunOS4.1 systems. The next patch should make things much nicer on those machines. I don't have any information on when the next patch might come down. Until then, we can research several possibilities. Excerpts from misc: 14-Mar-91 built andrew -- what next? Guido van Rossum@uunet.u (1438) > There is no > configuration choice for this platform so I pretend it is 4.0 and > complilation looks like it works smoothly. Can you send your site files (andrew/config/site.{h,mcr}). There's this thing called the resolver ... Excerpts from misc: > - "help" isn't built by default. When I build it manually it dumps core. > Is there any other way to get at the documentation, so I know where to > start? The help sources should be built by default. I have a sneaky suspicion that the build failed a few times and you didn't successfully finish the procedure. Excerpts from misc: > - The top-level README file doesn't tell me what to try first. > I can call "ez" on a textfile but it looks pretty boring. Granted. It would be better if you brought up the help program and read the andrew tour. Excerpts from misc: > - The default font used by "ez" appears to be "andyoffice12", which > has funny icons instead of some upper case letters. What do I do to > fix this? Once again this results from not completing the build process. You can fix this by running mkfontdir /usr/andrew/X11fonts. Excerpts from misc: > Anybody got clues? Is it worthwile to keep trying to use Andrew, or > should I give it up? Are the originators still developing this version? See above regarding clues. There are some dusty old guys in the back room ... claim they're building a better text editor. Seriously, there are some nice changes coming in the next patch. Gary Keim ATK Group