[comp.soft-sys.andrew] AMDS in an non-AFS environment ?

oldam@MATH.LIU.SE (Olof Damberg) (04/08/91)

I am considering setting up AMDS here at our site, in order to be able to
handle mail, bboards, netnews etc. in a consistent fashion.

However, after having consulted the available documents in the Andrew
distribution, and after having watched the traffic in the info-andrew
newsgroup for quite a while, I have realized that this is not an easy task.

The huge number of parameters which need to be set to get the delivery system
up and running is a discouraging factor. I also find that if you are in an
non-AFS environment, then the installation procedure is not as well defined as
in an AFS environment.
Furthermore, we do not have AFS specific programs such as 'mpp' and 'package',
which are needed (?) to build and maintain the delivery system.

The AMDS installation doc 'AMDS.ins' says that AMDS will also work in an 
non-AFS environment, so my question is:
Is it possible to run AMDS in an NFS environment ? (I do not expect it to 
be at all trivial, but I hope it is manageable.)

If there are sites out there running AMDS (perhaps with bboards and netnews
etc.) in an NFS environment, I would be very grateful if they could share
their experiences with me. Was it worth the trouble ?
(I would surely appreciate anything from the smallest hint to copies of setup
files, scripts etc. with the parameters used at your site.)

Many thanks!
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Olof Damberg				| email: oldam@math.liu.se
Dept of Math, Linkoping University	| phone: +46 13 281473
S-581 83  Linkoping, SWEDEN		| fax:   +46 13 100746

Some site-info:
A net of Sun4's (2 servers and ~40 diskless clients) 
running SUNOS 4.0.3 (soon 4.1.1) and NFS.
ATK patchlevel 9.
X11R4 patchlevel 18.

Craig_Everhart@TRANSARC.COM (04/09/91)

AMDS is a local mail delivery system.  I doubt that you really want to
run it unless you're also running AFS or something a lot like it.  In
particular, it's most useful within a single naming environment; you
could run it on a single machine, or in any collection of machines that
share files, where a given file has the same name everywhere.  (This is
the standard situation with AFS.)

It sounds as though you simply want to run AMS, which is a collection of
user agents and often a daemon that manages public folder trees.  AMS
user interfaces allow users to treat their personal mail and the public
folders (local bboards, netnews, mailing lists) as variants of one
another.  The short version of how that works is like this:  Every user
gets to build a folder tree for their own mail.  You can invent
distinguished pseudo-users in the system whose folders are open for
public read access, that are used as the local public bboards, and that
are updated by daemons running as one or more of these pseudo-users
(absorbing netnews and what-not).

Hope this helps.

		Craig