[comp.soft-sys.andrew] AMDS post office machine

grossman@oscar.tn.cornell.edu () (04/13/91)

I've named my cell theory.cornell.edu, but I'm unable to get a machine named
"theory.cornell.edu" right now for various political reasons.  Will
amds will work properly if I have the post office machine aliased to some 
other machine? Thus, if I have a machine "elmo.tn.cornell.edu", will an 
MX record for theory.cornell.edu pointing at elmo.tn.cornell.edu work?  At
least enough to bring it all up, test, demo, and convince these people to
give me the right name?

Thanks.
--
David Grossman                       INTERNET: grossman@theory.tn.cornell.edu
IBM Supercomputing Technology Center     VNET: DJG at RHQVM21
Engineering and Theory Center Bldg.     PHONE: (607) 254-8628
Hoy Rd.

rdew@ALW.NIH.GOV (Bob Dew) (04/15/91)

We had a similar problem at our work place.  It is possible to install
AMDS using post office machines that are named something other than the
cell name.  We recently completed an AMDS installation on our cell,
alw.nih.gov, without using administrative access on the machine whose
name is alw.nih.gov.

We use an MX forwarding trick, like the one you describe, though for
slightly different purposes.  As long as your incoming and outgoing
sendmail headers are doctored to match the name of your cell, it
shouldn't matter what physical machine you choose to serve as an AMDS
post office.  

Bob Dew
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda MD
rdew@alw.nih.gov
(301) 496-5361

Craig_Everhart@TRANSARC.COM (04/16/91)

The only downside of not having some PO machine be the same name as the
cell name is that somebody out there will try sending mail to the From:
address of a message (foo@theory.cornell.edu) without using MX records
to get there.

Certainly you should be able to get a good bit working before requiring
a machine with the same name as the cell name.

		Craig

Craig_Everhart@TRANSARC.COM (04/19/91)

Paul Traina reminded me that all hosts are now required to do MX
vectoring (rfc1123 paragraph 5.3.5, quoted below), so it should no
longer be necessary to have a PO machine with the same name as the cell
name, except to accommodate ``broken'' mail senders.

		Craig

from RFC 1123:

>       5.3.5  Domain Name Support

>          SMTP implementations MUST use the mechanism defined in Section
>          6.1 for mapping between domain names and IP addresses.  This
>          means that every Internet SMTP MUST include support for the
>          Internet DNS.

>          In particular, a sender-SMTP MUST support the MX record scheme
>          [SMTP:3].  See also Section 7.4 of [DNS:2] for information on
>          domain name support for SMTP.