[alt.msdos.programmer] MS C 6.00a bug list

bchin@umd5.umd.edu (Bill Chin) (04/17/91)

Anyone seen/have such a beast?  I've heard lots of rumors
about broken optimization and warning levels creating
bad code.  Specifically, will using -W3 or -Oas create
bad code for DOS or Windows programming??
Thanks.
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bkahn@spud.webo.dg.com (Bruce Kahn) (04/17/91)

  MicroSoft has such a beast and if you call their tech support line they
will be glad to sell it to you (but not give it to you).  Its very anoying
to spend 10 minutes on the phone waiting and then explaining a problem only
to have the person say "Oh yeah, thats a known bug." but then wont tell you
much more.  Call the tech support line and ask em for the list and see what
the current cost is; Id be interested in it but I spend enough on MicroSoft
products that I dont feel its nice for em to charge the ~$40-50 for the list
(that was the cost last time we checked here)...

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n8541751@unicorn.cc.wwu.edu (Where there is darkness, light) (04/18/91)

bchin@umd5.umd.edu (Bill Chin) writes:

>Anyone seen/have such a beast?  I've heard lots of rumors
>about broken optimization and warning levels creating
>bad code.  Specifically, will using -W3 or -Oas create
>bad code for DOS or Windows programming??
>Thanks.

I don't have a bug list, but we're switching back to version 5.1 at work
because of bad problems with warning levels and slower compiles without
a noticeable gain in execution speed.

Kris.
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nengle@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (nathan engle) (04/18/91)

In article <1991Apr18.070131.1892@unicorn.cc.wwu.edu> n8541751@unicorn.cc.wwu.edu (Where there is darkness, light) writes:
>bchin@umd5.umd.edu (Bill Chin) writes:
>
>>Anyone seen/have such a beast?  I've heard lots of rumors
>>about broken optimization and warning levels creating
>>bad code.  Specifically, will using -W3 or -Oas create
>>bad code for DOS or Windows programming??
>>Thanks.
>
>I don't have a bug list, but we're switching back to version 5.1 at work
>because of bad problems with warning levels and slower compiles without
>a noticeable gain in execution speed.

  I was personally very disappointed with the state of first release of
6.00. It had lots of things that just didn't work, and several that did
work but very slowly. For about 4 months I did a complete backtrack and
started moving all my stuff over to Zortech (they send you their bug
list for free). However, eventually 6.00a came out and most of my
complaints were cleared up so I'm running with it right now.

  I have to agree that MSC5.1 is/was about twice as stable as C6.00;
6.00a seems to be more on an equal footing with 5.1 as far as
reliability goes. 6.00a IS slower than 5.1 and the output code isn't
that much better, but I'm sticking with 6.00a because of the inline
assembler. Also, if I'm ever rash enough to take on any OS/2 projects
6.00a supports OS/2 better than 5.1 did.

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spoggle@cup.portal.com (David N Cornejo) (04/19/91)

Microsoft has a searchable data base of a variety of bug reports
press releases, and various announcements available online on
GEnie in the Microsoft Round Table.  The cost to access this
database is their regular $6/hr non-prime time rate.  The last
time I looked there were about 50 matches to 'C', 'fatal', and
'error' in the database.

Dave Cornejo
TPCC, Reston VA

darcy@druid.uucp (D'Arcy J.M. Cain) (04/19/91)

In article <1991Apr17.155411.204@webo.dg.com> Bruce Kahn writes:
>  MicroSoft has such a beast and if you call their tech support line they
>will be glad to sell it to you (but not give it to you).  Its very anoying
> [...]
>products that I dont feel its nice for em to charge the ~$40-50 for the list
>(that was the cost last time we checked here)...

WHAT!!!!!

I'm no fan of Microsoft but I can't believe that even they would charge
for a bug list.  Can someone from Microsoft confirm this.  I mean if
this is true it is absolutely crazy.  What's next?  A subscription
so that you can keep up as they introduce new bugs?

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mrs@netcom.COM (Morgan Schweers) (04/20/91)

Greetings,
    I too would like such a beast.  MSC 6.0's supposed 'optimization'
badly broke my code recently.  The strange thing is that when I used
/Ozax it failed, but when I used /Ozacegilt /Gs it worked.  These
two are supposed to be the same, according to the online help.

    Am I seeing things?
 
                                               --  Morgan Schweers