[comp.realtime] VME Board manufacturers?

aras@ecerl1.ece.ncsu.edu (Caglan Aras) (12/11/90)

Does anyone have the address/telephone of Ironics, a VME bus board
manufacturer? Also, I have found the following companies who manufacture
68030 VME Boards:

 	- MATRIX
	- FORCE
	- Mizar
	- Heurikon
	- Motorola

If you know of any others, postings or e-mail replies for the name,
address and telephone of them will be greatly appreciated.

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tim@proton.amd.com (Tim Olson) (12/11/90)

In article <1990Dec10.180513.10032@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu> aras@ecerl1.ece.ncsu.edu.UUCP (Caglan Aras) writes:
| Does anyone have the address/telephone of Ironics, a VME bus board
| manufacturer? 

Ironics' address is:

	Ironics Incorporated
	798 Cascadilla Street
	Ithaca, NY 14850

	(607) 277-4060




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scott@nbc1.ge.com (Scott Barman) (12/12/90)

In article <1990Dec10.180513.10032@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu> aras@ecerl1.ece.ncsu.edu.UUCP (Caglan Aras) writes:
>If you know of any others, postings or e-mail replies for the name,
>address and telephone of them will be greatly appreciated.

This seems important enough to post -

For $44.95 (and they will take a purchase order number over the phone but
not a credit card), you can get the VMEbus Compatible Products Directory
from th VMEbus International Trade Association.  Of the "big names" in
the VME world, you may have to go directly to Motorola and Force for their
product information.  To contact VITA:

	VMEbus International Trade Association
	10229 N. Scottsdale Rd., Suite B
	Scottsdale, AZ  85253
	602/951-8866

IMHO: a great place to start for VME product information.

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bernie@DIALix.oz.au (Bernd Felsche) (12/13/90)

In <1990Dec10.180513.10032@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu> aras@ecerl1.ece.ncsu.edu (Caglan Aras) writes:

[Ironics request deleted]

>If you know of any others, postings or e-mail replies for the name,
>address and telephone of them will be greatly appreciated.

	Radstone Technology 
	Water Lane
	Towcester
	Northants
	NN12 7JN
	United Kingdom

	Phone (0327) 50312
	Tlx 31628
	Fax (0327) 359662

They also have an office in the US... but I don't have it to hand.
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csg@pyramid.pyramid.com (Carl S. Gutekunst) (12/14/90)

>... I have found the following companies who manufacture 68030 VME Boards...
>If you know of any others, postings or e-mail replies for the name,
>address and telephone of them will be greatly appreciated.

You missed all the manufacturers who specialize in communications boards: SBE,
CMC, Performance Technologies Inc, and Systech. Pyramid OEMs SBE's boards, and
we have generally had a very good working relationship with them. PTI is a
small company with a limited product line, but what they do have is done very
well; we might have gone with them had we not already had the relationship
with SBE. PTI's biggest weakness is poor documentation. Systech may be the
biggest name in datacomm boards, but their products are garbage. CMC has been
a mixed bag over the years; it always seemed like that at the moment we needed
something specific, it wasn't quite ready yet. But I generally have a good
feel about them.

Then there is Interphase, which traditionally has specialized in disk and tape
controllers, but also offers Ethernet and (recently) FDDI. CMC has FDDI, too;
I don't think anyone else is shipping it.

The companies you named -- Motorola, Mizar, Force, et al -- seem to only make
generic boards, too limited to be interesting for my purposes; and their sales
critters generally are too busy with making volume sales to take an interest
in their customer's applications. The smaller companies -- SBE and PTI are the
ones I know best -- are much more willing to talk to you, and make honest
evaluations about how their boards fit your needs. I was particularly annoyed
by Mizar, who insisted they had the perfect board for my synchronous datacomm
frontend, when it was blatantly obvious that they had nothing that could even
touch the five-year-old boards I had from SBE.

Let me know if you want phone numbers, etc., for any of the companies listed
above, or look them up in the already mentioned VME products catalog. Alas,
the catalog doesn't tell you anything about whether the vendors are any good
or not. Which is why I posted the above....

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hulsebos@ehvie0.tq.ine.philips.nl (rob hulsebos) (12/14/90)

In article <137677@pyramid.pyramid.com> csg@pyramid.pyramid.com (Carl S. Gutekunst) writes:
>The companies you named -- Motorola, Mizar, Force, et al -- seem to only make
>generic boards, too limited to be interesting for my purposes; and their sales
>critters generally are too busy with making volume sales to take an interest
>in their customer's applications. The smaller companies -- SBE and PTI are the
>ones I know best -- are much more willing to talk to you, and make honest
>evaluations about how their boards fit your needs.
Philips' VMEgroup is also able to fit a board to your needs. You
specify what you want or don't want on the board, and we make it!
It's called ASAP - Application Specific Adaption of Products.


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philip@vogon.cetia.fr (Philip Peake) (12/17/90)

You may be interested by our range of VME boards and workstations.
They include the following types of card:

	- CPU's (68020, 68030, 68040, 88k)
	       The latest versions have SCSI and ETHERNET (thick and thin)
                on the CPU board.

	- SCS controllers

	- ETHERNET controllers

	- Graphics cards (intelligent cards)

If you want more info, please e-mail me and I will get you a full set of
data sheets, or, you can call our US distributors:

	Mercury Computer Systems Inc.
	Tel: (508) 458-3100
	Fax: (508) 458-9580

Philip 

csg@pyramid.pyramid.com (Carl S. Gutekunst) (12/28/90)

>>The companies you named -- Motorola, Mizar, Force, et al -- seem to only
>>make generic boards, too limited to be interesting for my purposes....
>
>Philips' VMEgroup is also able to fit a board to your needs. You specify
>what you want or don't want on the board, and we make it! It's called ASAP -
>Application Specific Adaption of Products.

With all respect, you are unfortunately demonstrating one of the most common
misunderstandings that I run into when I talk to VME board manufacturers: that
it is possible to take a general purpose platform (even one designed to be
reworked for specific applications) and make it suitable for high-performance
datacomm. Datacomm controllers need multiple internal busses, careful design
of dual ported memory to reduce contention, and precise matching of the DMA
controller to the serial interface chips, and a variety of more subtle needs.
Look at the comm boards from CMC, SBE, and Performance Technology to get an
idea of what I mean. (Systech and Metacomp make true communications cards,
too; but they have so many problems that I wouldn't recommend using them as
a model.)

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