[net.auto] Stop Signs

goldfarb@ucf-cs.UUCP (06/23/83)

I noticed what I thought was an anachronism in a movie supposedly
depicting the 1930's recently, prompting a discussion that I would
like to continue here.  Specifically, there was a RED stop sign on
a street in the movie.  I can recall that stop signs were YELLOW up
until the late 50's.  They were then changed to red.  I've had some
folks tell me I'm crazy, so perhaps the yellow stop sign was just
a local phenomenon in Pittsburgh, where I grew up.  Does anyone
else besides me remember yellow stop signs?

--
Ben Goldfarb
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ARPA:  goldfarb.ucf-cs@Rand-Relay

larry@ihuxf.UUCP (06/23/83)

I also remember yellow stop signs with a switch to read sometime in the
mid- to late fifties.  This was in a Chicago suburb where I grew up.
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		Larry Marek
		 ihnp4!ihuxf!larry

tag@tty3b.UUCP (06/23/83)

Yes, I recall yellow stop signs in my home town of Park Ridge, north-
west of Chicago.  The word STOP was spelled out with little yellow 
reflector-buttons.  Stop signs were smaller in those days (~1960) too; 
does anyone know what size they were?  That's a funny question, I know,
but I really would like to know.  Reply by mail, of course.
                        - Tom Gloger ( ihnp4!otuxa!tty3b!tag )

res@ihuxn.UUCP (06/23/83)

I do not know the dates for the following, but I believe that the
following is correct from my recollection.  Back in antiquity (probably
the mid-'50s) there were no standards for highway markings or other
traffic control signals (such as STOP signs).  In the 1950's timeframe
a set of federal guidelines was developed which included such things as
the sizes and colors of the signs (red octagons for STOP signs, orange
rectangles for construction warnings, triangular YIELD signs, etc.).
Over a period of time signs not following the guidelines have been
replaced as they rusted out or whatever with ones that do meet these
guidelines.  I do not know if these rules are now strong enough to call
"requirements" or not (that is, if failure to comply costs the states
any cash).

Subsequently, an international effort was made to standardize traffic
signs and signals.  The federal guidelines were modified to include the
agreed-upon international signs (such as the red circle with a red
diagonal to indicate prohibition of the thing denoted on the sign).
The only American sign to become an international standard is the red
octogon ... the friendly American STOP (or ARRET, or ... ) sign.

					Rich Strebendt
					...!ihnp4!ihuxn!res

mjl@ritcv.UUCP (06/24/83)

Yellow stop signs (and yield signs) were standard in New York until
the early 60's as well.

Mike Lutz
{allegra,seismo}!rochester!ritcv!mjl

grw@fortune.UUCP (06/26/83)

	I know that all of the road signs in California
    used to be put up by the California Automobile Club,
    'way back before there was a CalTrans.

					-Glenn

padpowell@wateng.UUCP (PAD Powell[Admin]) (06/27/83)

Yellow, red, who cares?  Up here in  Canada we have the French Farce
Whoops! I mean Fact to deal with.  I Montreal last year I was driving
along, and came to the biggest STOP! ARRET! signs I have ever seen.
I stopped.  Kerblam! I was rear ended.  I got out, and the other driver
said to me "Hey, whydidja stop?"

Only in Canada?  Pity.

Patrick Powell