gnome@olivee.UUCP (Gary Traveis) (12/12/84)
Ugh! Unix talk good too!
mauney@ncsu.UUCP (Jon Mauney) (12/12/84)
I am glad to know that the esteemed president of DEC has such a clear understanding of the issues in operating systems and the difference between Unix and VMS. It is this that makes competition possible. -- Jon Mauney, mcnc!ncsu!mauney * Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn whether Unix, VMS, and DEC are trademarks.
jona@clyde.UUCP (Jon Allingham) (12/13/84)
> ... > -- if you look long enough it's there. That's the difference > -- the beauty of UNIX is it's simple; and the beauty of VMS is that > it's all there. Sounds like BS to me ! -- Jon M. Allingham (201)386-3466 AT&T Bell Laboratories-WH "Beam me up Scotty, no intelligent life down here!"
wbpesch@ihuxp.UUCP (Walt Pesch) (12/14/84)
The beauty of Unix is that it is only a short time to look up a command, and if you don't find it, you can make it yourself. And I would think that more than 10% of the VAXes out there run UNIX or some derivative thereof. Where dod he get that figure from??? Walt Pesch AT&T Technologies ihnp4!ihuxp!wbpesch
mjc@cmu-cs-cad.ARPA (Monica Cellio) (12/15/84)
>> ... >> -- if you look long enough it's there. That's the difference >> -- the beauty of UNIX is it's simple; and the beauty of VMS is that >> it's all there. > >Sounds like BS to me ! Especially when you consider what it takes to find anything in that poor excuse for a manual. I'll take man and key over 5 feet of questionable quality stuff any day. -Dragon -- UUCP: ...seismo!ut-sally!ut-ngp!lll-crg!dragon ARPA: monica.cellio@cmu-cs-cad or dragon@lll-crg
hart@cp1.UUCP (rod ) (12/16/84)
> > Ugh! > > Unix talk good too! Did I read something about the guy calling Unix a language? -- =========================================================================== Signed by: Rod Hart (WA3MEZ) Minicomputer Technical Support District Chesapeake & Potomac Tel. Co. A Bell Atlantic Company Silver Spring, Md. sabre!cp1!hart - gamma!cp1!hart - umcp-cs!cp1!hart - aplvax!cp1!hart ===========================================================================
bing@lanierrnd.UUCP (Bing Bang) (12/17/84)
I think DEC makes a great mini-computer series, but their operating system has always Blown the Big Wind. ...akgua!lanierrnd!bing
henry@utzoo.UUCP (Henry Spencer) (12/18/84)
If this is a sample of the thinking of DEC's top management, it is no
wonder that DEC is in serious trouble.
--
Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
{allegra,ihnp4,linus,decvax}!utzoo!henrysigma@usl.UUCP (Spyridon Triantafyllopoulos) (12/18/84)
While DEC charges a pretty good deal for VMS and its associated
software, source code, etc, I doubt if they get any $$$$ for Unix,
especcialy the BSD version. AT&T gets licencing rights for Version V,
but no DEC. So DEC's president's letter could be interpreted as
"Since we are not making any money out of Unix, DON'T BUY IT!!"
Performance-wise, having used both VMS and BSD 4.2, Unix is FAR more
superior and flexible... VMS is too restrictive (although it has
"Five feet of Documentation"). It is faster, we have to admit that,
but that's it... now the price difference.......
Spiros Triantafyllopoulos
Computer Science Department
University of Southwestern Louisiana
{ut-sally, akgua}!usl!sigma