jeri@alice.UUCP (07/19/83)
I don't know if this problem has come up before in this newsgroup, but I know a few people whom are really bothered by it. the problem is a very foggy film that covers the inside of my car windows soon after I clean them, and increases almost daily. when I wipe it off, the rag comes away black. I've spoken to other people about it, and it seems only to occur on new cars. I have an '82 Celica, and my boyfriend (whose car develops this film too) has an '82 Challenger. I thought it could possibly be from the Armour-All I use to clean the dashboard, but a friend of mine with an '83 Mazda RX-7 has the problem also, and doesn't use Armour-All. Can anyone shed some light on this problem? Respond by mail, and I will summarize to the net. Thanks in advance. Jeri Frisch .br BTL, Murray Hill .br (alice!jeri)
ark@rabbit.UUCP (07/19/83)
I think that the problem is caused by gunk that evaporates from the vinyl seat covers. I suppose that if you get leather ones it would stop. It does decrease with time.
lat@wbux5.UUCP (07/19/83)
Well, I have cloth seats in my '82 Corolla, and I get the same thing. At first I thought it was from cigarette smoke, but I rarely smoke in the car anymore, and I still get the film on the window. Laurie
trb@floyd.UUCP (Andy Tannenbaum) (07/20/83)
The gop on your windows is discharged from vinyl in your car. My new car has cloth seats but the dash and some of the rest of the guts are plastic and there's a thin film of slime inside the windows. Smoke would certainly also cause gunk. I have a Karmann Ghia which heats/ventilates the driver compartment with exhaust gases; that slimes up the windows too. Andy Tannenbaum Bell Labs Whippany, NJ (201) 386-6491
crc@clyde.UUCP (07/20/83)
Ford discovered that this foggy stuff is the emulsifier from the vinyl in the car interior. The vinyl dashboard is the primary source, which explains why the stuff is only noticeable on the windsheild. When all of the emulsifier has evaporated it will ofcourse stop condensing on the windows, unfortunatly, this stuff keeps the vinyl soft. When it's all gone the vinyl will become brittle. One of my cars is ten years old and it seems to have more emulsifier on the glass this year.
warren@ihnss.UUCP (07/21/83)
The problem is most likely, as others have indicated, plasticizer escaping from the plastics in the car. There are, however, other and more sinister potential causes: Slow leak in the heater, causing volitals in the engine coolant to be deposited on your windows. I have seen this in couple of cars, where there was no great evidence of trouble except for mysterious loss of coolant and windows that constantly fogged when the heater ran. Slow leak in the air conditioning system. The freon won't fog the windows, but the oils that they put in it will. If you ever have a mysterious loss of freon in an air conditioning system, suspect something like this. -- Warren Montgomery ihnss!warren IH x2494
louisp@tekcad.UUCP (07/21/83)
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tekcad!louisp Jul 20 08:11:00 1983
I have a new car with leather interior and I,d shoot anybody on sight
that even contemplated fouling up my air by smoking!!
...ALAS, I too suffer from the inside window film. It seem to be generated
extra quickly on bright, hot days. I would also agree that it's a byproduct
of dredded vinyl dryout syndrome. I guess when your dash has dried out enough
to crack and distort, you wont have to worry about that unsightly film anymore.
If someone knows the magic cure, please elucidate.
Thanx;
Louis Pengue
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