tshaffer@ADS.COM (Tom Shaffer) (01/09/91)
I am interested in Intellicorp's new product called ProKappa and ProKappa-PC. Does anyone out there have any experience with this product? How easy is it to learn and use? How's their customer support? How does it compare to KEE? Is Intellicorp going to be around next year?" How does it compare to other similar products? Any other recommendations? -- Tom Shaffer -- tshaffer@ads.com
jjacobs@uunet.uu.net (Jeffrey Jacobs) (01/13/91)
I attended a demo/seminar this week. Pro-Kappa and Kappa-PC are "two completely separate products". (I believe the latter was "purchased"). Effectively no compatibility. The seminar primarily concentrated on Pro-Kappa (PK). PK is KEE redone in C and with "seldom used features removed", e.g. truth maintentance and worlds. There is a new language for OO and rules called PRO-TALK. Fundamentally English type syntax, although they've include PROLOG list processing syntax as an "option". The product is embeddable and exportable, with run-times to be available RSN for a variety of systems. Currently SQL support for ORACLE is (almost?) available). It also includes an interpreted C development environment, from Sabre-C. PK is modular, so you can include delete subsystems as you like. PRO-TALK compiles to "C .o" files. I was not terribly impressed by the user interface. Its all based on X-Windows and lacked a number of features available in NEXPERT, which is what is who their main competition is. I think they'll be around... Jeffrey M. Jacobs ConsArt Systems Inc, Technology & Management Consulting P.O. Box 3016, Manhattan Beach, CA 90266 voice: (213)376-3802, E-Mail: 76702.456@COMPUSERVE.COM
jjacobs@uunet.uu.net (Jeffrey Jacobs) (01/23/91)
I am also told that PRO-KAPPA will only read a DBMS, not WRITE one!!! Jeffrey M. Jacobs ConsArt Systems Inc, Technology & Management Consulting P.O. Box 3016, Manhattan Beach, CA 90266 voice: (213)376-3802, E-Mail: 76702.456@COMPUSERVE.COM
jyau@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Nie Jia Yau) (01/25/91)
(Sorry if the following question has been asked before.) How good is IntelliCorp's Kappa PC?? I read some good comments about it from "Intelligent Software Strategies", August 1990 issue. A figure inside the Newsletter placed Kappa PC as "excellent", better than Level5 Object (by Information BUilders Inc.) and Nexpert Object (by Neuron Data). We already have a cope of KEE (version 3.05 on Apollo), but we are thinking about purchasing a copy of Kappa PC. Is it worthwhile doing it? Is there anybody has hands-on expereince on running Kappa PC? Any comments on Kappa PC, comparisions between Kappa PC and Level5 Object or Nexpert Object will be VERY much appreciated!! Jerry Yau e-mail: jyau@civilgate.ce.uiuc.edu or jyau@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu fax: (217)333-9464
ahlenius@uunet.uu.net (Mark Ahlenius) (01/31/91)
> How good is IntelliCorp's Kappa PC?? > >I read some good comments about it from "Intelligent >Software Strategies", August 1990 issue. A figure inside >the Newsletter placed Kappa PC as "excellent", better >than Level5 Object (by Information BUilders Inc.) and >Nexpert Object (by Neuron Data). >We already have a cope of KEE (version 3.05 on Apollo), >but we are thinking about purchasing a copy of Kappa PC. (good luck on support on Apollo). some stuff deleted.. on the subject of Intellicorp, anybody really know how the company is doing? Their stock is way down, the are dumping their support for KEE on the SUN 3 platform in October, (and SYmbolics too, I hear) and I think they are also moving away from some other platforms too. Just wondering if they are going to make it. Its hard to keep up that expensive building they have there in Mountain View. I know they wont be getting any more support bucks from us anymore. Opinions expressed here are purely my own. -- =============== regards 'mark ============================================= Mark Ahlenius voice:(708)-632-5346 email: uunet!motcid!ahleniusm Motorola Inc. fax: (708)-632-2413 Arlington, Hts. IL, USA 60004
mdb@zero.arc.ab.ca (Mark Brinsmead) (02/07/91)
In article <7499@uklirb.informatik.uni-kl.de>, motcid!ahlenius@uunet.uu.net (Mark Ahlenius) writes: |> |> on the subject of Intellicorp, anybody really know how the |> company is doing? Their stock is way down, the are dumping |> their support for KEE on the SUN 3 platform in October, |> (and SYmbolics too, I hear) |> and I think they are also moving away from some other platforms |> too. Yeah, but SUN is dumping *their* support for the SUN 3 platform, too. All machines sold by SUN (at least in CANADA) are now SPARC-based. As for SYMBOLICS, well, anybody want to buy a lisp-machine? We have a whole boat-load (1 3670, 3 3650s, and about 6 3620s) that we would like to dispose of. I'm sure we can provide easy terms... I cannot blame *any* vendor for withdrawing support for either of the above mentioned platforms, although I think SUN may be making an error in dumping their line of Motorola toys.... -- Mark Brinsmead, Alberta REsearch Council
hall@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (Marty Hall) (02/08/91)
[I tried sending this by email, but it bounced] > > As for SYMBOLICS, well, anybody want to buy a lisp-machine? We have a whole >boat-load (1 3670, 3 3650s, and about 6 3620s) that we would like to >dispose of. >I'm sure we can provide easy terms... Well, I don't entirely agree with you on the lack of future of Lisp Machines, but you might try two sources to sell your Symbolics. They both buy (and sell) used Symbolics as well as hardware maintenance contracts. Larry Gashi Crossfield Corporation 28 Charron Ave #13 Nashua, NH 03063 (603) 889-3000 Brad Porter Great Eastern Technology 238 Broadway Cambridge. MA 02139 (617) 547-0300 (800) 875-0025 - Marty Hall ------------------------------------------------------ hall@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu, hall%aplcen@jhunix.bitnet, ..uunet!aplcen!hall Artificial Intelligence Lab, AAI Corp, PO Box 126, Hunt Valley, MD 21030
deem@kodak.kodak.com (Frank Deem) (02/14/91)
MDBMS of Lafayette, Indiana publishes a shell called "Guru". This is an integrated tool that includes not only an expert system, but a spread sheet, database, extensive graphics, a natural language facility, LAN, and other communication facilities. However, this tool is only available for the IBM PC type environment. Is anyone aware of such an integrated tool for the MacIntosh environment? _________________ | ___ ________ | Frank Deem (716) 722-4054 | | / / | | Senior Development Engineer | | / / | | Artificial Intelligence Laboratory | |< < K o d a k| | Eastman Kodak Company | | \ \ | | Rochester, NY 14562-4201 | |__\ \________| | email: deem@Kodak.COM |_________________| FAX: (716) 722-6592