[net.auto] gear oils

tims@shark.UUCP (Tim Stoehr) (09/16/83)

I've heard alot of good information on the net about motor oils, but I
haven't heard anything about gear oils.  If anyone has any interesting
info about this, I'd like to read it, especially if it answers the
following questions.

1.)  What is the meaning of the API rating, i.e. GL4?
2.)  Can GLx gear oil be used where GLy oil is required if x < y?  If x > y?
3.)  Is it useful to change manual transmission oil?  Why?  How often?  What
     can happen if you don't?

vfm@ihu1f.UUCP (09/20/83)

          API GL ratings:

          I searched my documentation for the  definitions/specifications  of
          "GL" to little avail.  I did find the following:

            1.  GL1 -

                   + FIAT:   Having  anti-wear  additives  without  chlorine,
                     sulfur or phosphorus.

                   + MACK:  Specification GO-A.

            2.  GL4 - A product exclusively rated as such should not be  used
                in transaxles.

            3.  GL5 - Must meet many additional specs by EATON, MILITARY, GM,
                INTERNATIONAL  and  MACK.  Most of these specs state that the
                lube must not contain zinc.

            4.  GL6 - Meets FORD ESW-M2C105-A-H.P specification.

          I could not find anything on GL2 & GL3.

          For petroleum/mineral lubes I don't know if the  higher  GL  suffix
          number can replace the lesser one/s.

          AMS/OIL synthetic gear lube statement:

          "AMS/OIL  80W-90  Gear  Lube  exceeds  in   the   lubrication   and
          performance  requirements for gear boxes where MIL-L-2105C and AUTO
          SPEC. GL2 through GL6 lubricants are specified for 80W-90 grades."

          When to changes:

          Some  reasons  to   change   the   lube   are   the   manufacturers
          recommendation to do so and possibly a high-performance lubrication
          (such  as  a  synthetic)  may  improve  performance.   In   general
          applications  gear lube does not require frequent changes, but there
          are some "unpublished" reasons for changing it.   One  that  I  can
          think  of  is if a differential vent (most of them have a vent that
          runs into the frame someplace) becomes submerged in water.  If such
          a  situation  could have taken place, check it ASAP and if water is
          present  change  it  pronto  and  continue  to  do  so  for  awhile
          thereafter!

          Eventually these lubes under normal conditions will get very  black
          and possibly thicker.  Now if you have some sort of limited-slip or
          "posi" differential you definitely should  change  it  more  often.
          These  rear-ends  can  cause  the lube to get very hot and the same
          thing that  happens  to  oil  (evaporate)  can  happen  to  it  and
          definitely  get  thicker.   Synthetics  in  this application have a
          service life several times that of a petroleum product.  Vet owners
          from years past that used to rely on a now "not-legally-obtainable"
          whale oil additive appreciate the synthetic lube.

          In extreme cold the synthetics really show their stuff  again.   If
          you've  ever tried shifting a granny-geared, stump-pulling truck in
          temps <-40 F (not a wind chill - as in North Dakota)  your  chances
          of bending a shifting fork before making the shift are much higher.

          Synthetic gear lube runs about $6/gt (AMS/OIL 80W-90) and  it  does
          its job superbly!