[net.auto] Radials on an old car

gary@rochester.UUCP (Gary Cottrell) (10/12/83)

From: Gary Cottrell  <gary>

I have a 66 dodge dart with radials on it. Someone told me they thought that
the suspension was not designed for radials, and that the handling would be
affected. I notice that it seems a lot smoother than my 65 Valiant with bias-
ply, but it does seem a little mushy in the corners. Does anyone who is
*knowledgeable* about these things know if I should worry? Please mail me,
and I will summarize to the net.

While we're on the subject, what the hell does "radial-tuned" shocks mean?

gary cottrell (allegra or seismo)!rochester!gary  or
gary@rochester

wookie@alice.UUCP (10/15/83)

The best info I have seen concerning the radials on an old
car (pre 71 for most US) is that they are harder on the
suspension components than bias ply tires.  The radial
transmits bumps around the cross section of the tire
and so there is much less area to absorb the shock
which is immediately transmitted to the bottom of the 
wheel.  In a bias ply tire the bumps are transmitted
around the circumference of the tire and so more of the
road shock is absorbed by the tire and not transmitted
to the wheel.  I have not had any knowledgeable source
indicate any handling troubles.....only faster
wear on ball joints and suspension bushings.

I hope we can get a tire engineer or suspension engineer
in on this because I too would like to know!!

				Keith Bauer
				White Tiger Racing

dswankii@uok.UUCP (10/28/83)

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uok!dswankii    Oct 26 16:27:00 1983

You are very close to the answer. Radial tires DO send more of the impact
to the car and for the reason mentioned. However I have not noticed any
increase in wear on my older cars with radial tires and if I did, I would
accept it as part of the price for the extra safety of radials (ever drive
on pavement that is of two heights?). Radial Tuned Suspention systems are
designed to absorb the extra impact instead of transmitting it to the car
where YOU feel it. A washboard road will show this. RTS shocks are designed
to provide more shock absorption close to center position for the same
reason. On large bumps (potholes so deep you have to downshift to get out)
they work like regular shocks.

				David Swank II
				!duke!uok!dswankii