[comp.unix.i386] Word Perfect 5.0 under vpix

rk@bigbroth.UUCP (rohan kelley) (08/27/89)

We're running Dell (interactive 3.2) unix on a dell 310.  We can't get
wp5.0 to run although 4.2 runs ok, including library.  Is anyone out
there successfully running this configuration with wp5.0?

thanx

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les@chinet.chi.il.us (Leslie Mikesell) (09/03/89)

In article <597@bigbroth.UUCP> rk@bigbroth.UUCP (rohan kelley) writes:
>We're running Dell (interactive 3.2) unix on a dell 310.  We can't get
>wp5.0 to run although 4.2 runs ok, including library.  Is anyone out
>there successfully running this configuration with wp5.0?

I got it working under AT&T 3.2 by putting it on a DOS partition on
the hard disk - it has no problems accessing data files in the
unix filesystem.  It will probably also work if you install it on
the VP/ix  C: drive or set up another similar virtual disk.  The
problem appears to with VP/ix file locking, since the files are
handled individually in the unix file system but the floppies and
DOS hard disk partitions are given to the first user that grabs
them.  Of course only one user can run WP and in only one session
unless you make other copies.
I don't see why VP/ix doesn't provide a real netbios interface
to each DOS session.  It certainly isn't usable as a multi-user
platform without it.  The funny thing is that this same 386 machine
is running AT&T's STARLAN DOS SERVER and has no problem providing
netbios services for its client machines including file locking and
unlocking, it just can't do it for itself with VP/ix.  On the other
hand, WP is probably just getting a different error code back from
the open to indicate that the file is read-only and could just as
well ignore it (it doesn't mind being loaded from read-only network
drives).

Les Mikesell

tneff@bfmny0.UUCP (Tom Neff) (09/03/89)

In article <9476@chinet.chi.il.us> les@chinet.chi.il.us (Leslie Mikesell) writes:
>I got [WP 5.0] working under AT&T 3.2 by putting it on a DOS partition on
>the hard disk - it has no problems accessing data files in the
>unix filesystem.  It will probably also work if you install it on
>the VP/ix  C: drive or set up another similar virtual disk.  

This usually indicates that the program is trying to do sector or FAT
operations on a "drive" that is really the UNIX filesystem, disguised by
REDIR.  VP/ix will let you do any file operation you like on a
redirected file, but when you start to peek underneath the rug you blow
up.  I had this problem with some Intel translator tools that were
defaulting :WORK: to the current drive and directory.

In some cases the solution can be as simple as putting a "C:" drive
change command in your WORD.BAT file, to change the current drive and
directory over to something DOS sector operations work on (a pseudodrive
or mapped DOS partition) before invoking WORD.COM itself.

>                                                              The
>problem appears to with VP/ix file locking, since the files are
>handled individually in the unix file system but the floppies and
>DOS hard disk partitions are given to the first user that grabs
>them.  Of course only one user can run WP and in only one session
>unless you make other copies.

No, VP/ix gives the first requester Read/Write access and all subsequent
requesters Read/Only access, except for serial ports.  If you run into
this, Word should complain about a write protected drive.
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les@chinet.chi.il.us (Leslie Mikesell) (09/04/89)

In article <14623@bfmny0.UUCP> tneff@bfmny0.UU.NET (Tom Neff) writes:

>>I got [WP 5.0] working under AT&T 3.2 by putting it on a DOS partition on
>>the hard disk - it has no problems accessing data files in the
>>unix filesystem.  It will probably also work if you install it on
>>the VP/ix  C: drive or set up another similar virtual disk.  

>This usually indicates that the program is trying to do sector or FAT
>operations on a "drive" that is really the UNIX filesystem, disguised by
>REDIR.  VP/ix will let you do any file operation you like on a
>redirected file, but when you start to peek underneath the rug you blow
>up.

In this case I doubt it - the same program runs just fine using the starlan
DOS file server and accessing the directory on the unix machine from  
from another PC.  Unless WP acts differently when it thinks it is on a
network and VP/ix doesn't "appear" to be a network drive.  I'm using
the network version and it always asks what type of network it is on,
which indicates that it doesn't recognize it.

>>                                                              The
>>problem appears to with VP/ix file locking, since the files are
>>handled individually in the unix file system but the floppies and
>>DOS hard disk partitions are given to the first user that grabs
>>them.  Of course only one user can run WP and in only one session
>>unless you make other copies.

>No, VP/ix gives the first requester Read/Write access and all subsequent
>requesters Read/Only access, except for serial ports.  If you run into
>this, Word should complain about a write protected drive.
       ^^^ Make that WP5.0.

But using the network to access the program directory from a DOS machine,
WP is perfectly happy with seeing a write protected drive and/or read-only
files.  However under VP/ix it won't load at all directly from the unix
file system and only lets one user/session load it from the DOS drive.

Les Mikesell