[comp.unix.i386] Franchise Opportunity

jiii@visdc.UUCP (John E Van Deusen III) (09/02/89)

In article <960@utoday.UUCP> greenber@utoday.UUCP (Ross M. Greenberg)
writes:
>> I'd love to get a concise e-mail msg from a mag such as UNIX
>> Today!....
>
> Well, now you can.  See the last line of my .sig* file, below.
>
>Ross M. Greenberg
>UNIX TODAY!             594 Third Avenue   New York   New York  10016
>Review Editor           Voice:(212)-889-6431  BBS:(212)-889-6438
>uunet!utoday!greenber   BIX: greenber  MCI: greenber   CIS: 72461,3212

Speaking of mail, I am curious why UNIX TODAY doesn't have any "letters"
section.  There are some people pretty fired up about the recent "UNIX
Workstation" article that compared obsolete versions of ISC Unix against
the latest Intel (Bell) offering.  Are your articles really just adds?
Can't your advertisers tolerate ANY feedback?
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greenber@utoday.UUCP (Ross M. Greenberg) (09/03/89)

In article <630@visdc.UUCP> jiii@visdc.UUCP (John E Van Deusen III) writes:
>
>Speaking of mail, I am curious why UNIX TODAY doesn't have any "letters"
>section.  There are some people pretty fired up about the recent "UNIX
>Workstation" article that compared obsolete versions of ISC Unix against
>the latest Intel (Bell) offering.  Are your articles really just adds?
>Can't your advertisers tolerate ANY feedback?

First off, I think it might be best for me to get a biz group set up
for this kind of stuff:  it really doesn't belong here.

But, anyway....  We have a letters section, but we need to get letters
in order to print 'em.  The mailbox letters@utoday is aliased directly
over to my boss, Mike Azzara (The Buck Stops there:  he's the editor.
mikea@utoday) -- and he'll print the letters he gets (that fit, both in
length and content, naturally: make 'em short and to the point).

As for the review of the MPE.  Yeah,  I think *I* blew it on that one.
I posted a pretty long reply addressing all that stuff in comp.unix.i386,
coming to a spool directory near you soon.

Speaking for 90% of the pubs I know (I freelance for a number of pubs),
I can tell you that advertising and editorial *are* separate.  What we run
in UNIX Today! has had my publisher (the guy responsible for getting the
ad dollars in) running down to me a coupla times.  However, if he insists
on something, I quit.  So would everybody else on the editorial side of
things. 

Here's how *I* use the ads (not just in UNIX Today! but in those other
UNIX magazines -- can't remember their names right now.. :-) ).  I look
through the book, through the ads, through the New Products section.  From
there, I get ideas on what to review.  It is sad, but true, that 
non-advertisers are not noticed as much.  Simply because they're not as
present as advertisers are.  The UNIX comunity is still a bit disjointed,
there is no one source of information about new products.  Not yet, that
is:  that's our intent.

Getting this kinda stuff out of this newsgroup, 'cause it doesn't belong
here, I look forward to receiving mail telling us where we done good, and
where we done bad.  


Ross M. Greenberg
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noel@ubbs-nh.MV.COM (N. Del More) (09/04/89)

In article <967@utoday.UUCP> greenber@utoday.UUCP (Ross M. Greenberg) writes:
>First off, I think it might be best for me to get a biz group set up
>for this kind of stuff:  it really doesn't belong here.
>
>Getting this kinda stuff out of this newsgroup, 'cause it doesn't belong
>here, I look forward to receiving mail telling us where we done good, and
>where we done bad.  

Now why in the heck doesn't it belong here?  Sounds to me like this was a
discussion about a review published in your rag, and your comments
concerning the editorial policy etc.

IMHO, this discussion IS appropriate for this and other "regular"
newgroups unlike some of your other previous postings.

Noel

mark@promark.UUCP (Mark J. DeFilippis) (09/05/89)

In article <967@utoday.UUCP>, greenber@utoday.UUCP (Ross M. Greenberg) writes:
> 
> Here's how *I* use the ads (not just in UNIX Today! but in those other
> UNIX magazines -- can't remember their names right now.. :-) ).  I look

They are UNIX WORLD AND UNIX REVIEW.  They all look alike.  At the University
I usually get one of the three stuffed in my mailbox in the Mathematics and
Computer Science Department.  I admit I never noticed your articles, but
then again I am at least as busy as most of the people on this net.

> 
> Getting this kinda stuff out of this newsgroup, 'cause it doesn't belong
> here, I look forward to receiving mail telling us where we done good, and
> where we done bad.  
> 

Oh, now we are supposed to provide you with marketing data.  Hum... like
those reader response cards in the back of the mags.


The sheer amount of crap from you that I have to cat > /dev/null is really
pissing me off.  And now multiple newsgroups.  Great! Just like
using an overpowered CB on channel 18.  We are spashing
channel 17 and 19!  I am sure everyone "tuned in to those channels"
is as tickled pink about it as I am.


I said I was an opinionated guy. :-).  I guess human nature is what it is.

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