jrs2p@bellman.acc.Virginia.EDU (Jonathan R. Senning) (10/15/89)
Hello, I would like any information about places to purchase Interactive Systems Corp.'s version of unix system V version 3.2 for the 386. Do any mail order houses sell it or do I need to contact ISC directly. What about sources for SCO's unix (not xenix) system V version 3.2? What is the price comparison between ISC and SCO for a workstation setup with X windows (including development packages)? Which is better? Thanks in advance, Jonathan Senning REPLY TO: jrs2p@virginia.edu Department of Applied Mathematics University of Virginia
johnl@esegue.segue.boston.ma.us (John R. Levine) (10/15/89)
In article <999@babbage.acc.virginia.edu> jrs2p@Virginia.EDU (Jonathan R. Senning) writes: >Hello, > >I would like any information about places to purchase Interactive Systems >Corp.'s version of unix system V version 3.2 for the 386. .... What about >sources for SCO's unix (not xenix) system V version 3.2? From the Programmer's Connection catalog, 800 336 1166 or +1 216 494 3781. All prices include shipping within the US. They used to carry SCO but don't any more. My impression is that SCO's prices are somewhat higher that Interactive's, but with the various package pricing deals the only way to know is to figure out exactly what you want. 386/ix complete (runtime, software development, text processing) list net 1-2 user 1239 1099 unlimited 1735 1499 386/ix runtime list net 1-2 user 349 309 unlimited 695 619 386/ix software development (C compiler, sccs, yacc, lex, sdb, etc.) list net unlimited 695 619 386/ix TCP/IP list net unlimited 395 359 386/ix TCP/IP and NFS list net 1-2 user 595 539 unlimited 795 719 386/ix text processing (troff, nroff, eqn, pic, etc.) list net 1-2 user 195 179 unlimited 345 309 VP/ix (DOS under Unix) list net 1-2 user 395 359 unlimited 795 719 X11.3 development system list net unlimited 795 719 -- John R. Levine, Segue Software, POB 349, Cambridge MA 02238, +1 617 864 9650 johnl@esegue.segue.boston.ma.us, {ima|lotus|spdcc}!esegue!johnl Massachusetts has over 100,000 unlicensed drivers. -The Globe
davef@lakesys.lakesys.com (Dave Fenske) (10/15/89)
Yes, by all means purchase via mail order. AFter all, you wouldn't want to help your own state's economy, would you.
brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) (10/16/89)
In article <999@babbage.acc.virginia.edu> jrs2p@Virginia.EDU (Jonathan R. Senning) writes:
<Hello,
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<I would like any information about places to purchase Interactive Systems
<Corp.'s version of unix system V version 3.2 for the 386. Do any mail
<order houses sell it or do I need to contact ISC directly. What about
<sources for SCO's unix (not xenix) system V version 3.2?
From Programmer's Connection (800) 336-1166
386/ix complete system (runtime, SDS, TPW)
1-2 $1099
multi $1499
386/ix Multiview
$499
386/ix NFS
1-2 $359
multi $539
386/ix runtime module
1-2 $309
multi $619
386/ix Software Development System (SDS)
$619
386/ix TCP/IP - Host-Based Version
$359
386/ix Text Processing Workbench (TPW)
1-2 $179
multi $309
Application Development Platform
(complete system, VP/ix, TEN/PLUS user interface)
1-2 $1299
multi $1929
Application Platform
(runtime, VP/ix, TEN/PLUS User interface)
1-2 $669
multi $1299
Host Based TCP/IP and NFS Bundle
1-2 $539
multi $719
Network Connection Facilities
$269
TEN/PLUS Mail system
$269
TEN/PLUS Programmer's Tool Kit
$179
TEN/PLUS User Interface
$125
VP/ix
1-2 $359
multi $719
X11.3 Development System
$719
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ARPA/INTERNET: vidiot!root%astroatc.UUCP@spool.cs.wisc.edubill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) (10/16/89)
In article <1205@lakesys.lakesys.com> davef@lakesys.UUCP (Dave Fenske) writes:
: Yes, by all means purchase via mail order. AFter all, you wouldn't want to
: help your own state's economy, would you.
Such ignorance!
If you knew beans about economics, you'd know that *trade*,
including, among other things, buying by mail order, is essential to
a healthy economy. Small economies that don't trade, or that restrict
trade, are self destructive, causing their members a lower standard of
living and denying them the best of what is available.
Buying from somewhere solely because it is "local" is just another
variety of chauvinism.
And stupid, as well.
Followups have been directed to alt.flame.
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bill@twwells.compalowoda@megatest.UUCP (Bob Palowoda) (10/17/89)
From article <1989Oct14.225255.8107@esegue.segue.boston.ma.us>, by johnl@esegue.segue.boston.ma.us (John R. Levine): > In article <999@babbage.acc.virginia.edu> jrs2p@Virginia.EDU (Jonathan R. Senning) writes: > From the Programmer's Connection catalog, 800 336 1166 or +1 216 494 3781. > 386/ix complete (runtime, software development, text processing) > list net > 1-2 user 1239 1099 > unlimited 1735 1499 > > 386/ix runtime > list net > 1-2 user 349 309 > unlimited 695 619 This is wierd, why does one pay 80 more in the difference in the 1-2 user vs unlimited? Note below that the C devolopment system only comes in unlimited. VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV > > 386/ix software development (C compiler, sccs, yacc, lex, sdb, etc.) > list net > unlimited 695 619 > So the only explaination I see is below. A difference in the price of the 1-2 user version of the Text Processing package? > > 386/ix text processing (troff, nroff, eqn, pic, etc.) > list net > 1-2 user 195 179 > unlimited 345 309 How do they do that? Do the 1 to 2 user versions programs of nroff, troff, go around checking to see if more than one user is logged in? Will the 1-2 user version work with NFS? Do they sell a 1 to 2 user verion of the C Development System cheaper? > X11.3 development system > list net > unlimited 795 719 Do they sell a 1 to 2 user version of X11.3 cheaper? ---Bob -- Bob Palowoda *Home of Fiver BBS* login: bbs Work: {sun,decwrl,pyramid}!megatest!palowoda Home: {sun}ys2!fiver!palowoda (A XBBS System) 2-lines BBS: (415)623-8809 2400/1200 (415)623-8806 1200/2400/9600/19200
root@nstar.UUCP (Larry Snyder) (10/17/89)
> What is the price comparison between ISC and SCO for a workstation setup > with X windows (including development packages)? Which is better? You will get different answers on this question - but here are my 2 cents worth. I originally went with Interactive 2.02 purchased from ISC in Hollis, NH. The technical support out of Hollis is bad - I mean real bad. You ask them a question about modem configuration - and they say "we don't support the type of modem since it doesn't work" instead of trying to isolate the problems (which by the way was is in their drivers). After numerous problems and complaints - which all went ignored by Brian @ technical support in Hollis - I threatened to return the product and charge back the about to their account that they posted on the Visa. Brian called and made a list of my problems and said he would get back to me - which he never did. Calls to Kurt Lynn (he runs the Hollis office) also went un-answered. I ended up selling my copy of ISC - and the new owner is running into some of the same problems. Tech support is needed since the manuals are so very bad - and major items are left out. ISC blames the problem in AT&T - yet the SCO manuals are well written. I found out this week that no upgrade is available from 1.06 (for a friend) - one has to purchased a complete set of the latest release unless unless on one of the support plans. This is crazy. ISC has major problems - most of them relating to support (ie: the Hollis office). The Hollis office wasn't aware of the X5 kernel configuration kit 4 weeks after it was released. I could go on and on - but I won't. I would suggest keeping away from ISC. SCO Unix has a few problems - but based on their Xenix product and responses - they will be fixed if they currently are not.
karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Karl Denninger) (10/25/89)
In article <1205@lakesys.lakesys.com> davef@lakesys.UUCP (Dave Fenske) writes: >Yes, by all means purchase via mail order. AFter all, you wouldn't want to >help your own state's economy, would you. I'll add to that: Yes, by all means purchase via mail order. You wouldn't want to >be able to get help when you need it< would you? Think about it. If you buy at the lowest price, >something< was left out. Since the products are the same, it's usually the support that gets left out. -- Karl Denninger (karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM, <well-connected>!ddsw1!karl) Public Access Data Line: [+1 312 566-8911], Voice: [+1 312 566-8910] Macro Computer Solutions, Inc. "Quality Solutions at a Fair Price"
madd@world.std.com (jim frost) (10/26/89)
In article <1989Oct25.141337.10039@ddsw1.MCS.COM> karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Karl Denninger) writes: |Think about it. If you buy at the lowest price, >something< was left out. |Since the products are the same, it's usually the support that gets left out. A good many people don't need reseller support when they need support at all. Resellers often just call the original vendor and get back to you. This lag, and the obvious secondhand information that it implies, leads me to buy from the resellers and work with the original vendor. This is useful to both of us since I'll find a fix on my own and be sure to tell the vendor about it. Note that I'm speaking of software here. Hardware is usually a different story. jim frost software tool & die "The World" Public Access Unix for the '90s madd@std.com +1 617-739-WRLD 24hrs {3,12,24}00bps
dmocsny@uceng.UC.EDU (daniel mocsny) (10/27/89)
In article <1989Oct25.141337.10039@ddsw1.MCS.COM>, karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Karl Denninger) writes: > Yes, by all means purchase via mail order. You wouldn't want to >be able to > get help when you need it< would you? > > Think about it. If you buy at the lowest price, >something< was left out. If you need help, something certainly was left out. Namely, the work necessary to deliver a functioning product. (If the product doesn't function because of factors the vendor can't conveniently control, or doesn't want to control, that doesn't matter, because the vendor took your money anyway.) Dan Mocsny dmocsny@uceng.uc.edu
" Maynard) (10/27/89)
In article <1989Oct25.141337.10039@ddsw1.MCS.COM> karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Karl Denninger) writes: >Yes, by all means purchase via mail order. You wouldn't want to >be able to >get help when you need it< would you? >Think about it. If you buy at the lowest price, >something< was left out. >Since the products are the same, it's usually the support that gets left out. After all, since the manufacturers don't believe in supporting their product, that job is left to the dealers... -- Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can jay@splut.conmicro.com (eieio)| adequately be explained by stupidity. {attctc,bellcore}!texbell!splut!jay +---------------------------------------- Gandhi II: no more Mr. Passive Resistance...he's out to kick some butt!