piety@hplabs.UUCP (Bob Piety) (12/15/83)
A question recently came up:
On a 4WD pickup truck, on which pair of wheels would you put chains in
really bad conditions? Front or Back?
One thought: In front, thats where the steering is & the added traction
will PULL you out of trouble.
Another thought: In back, that'll keep the rear end from coming around.
I vote for front 'cause there'S more weight there.
Does anyone really know what the correct way is??
Bobdarrell@drux3.UUCP (12/16/83)
I've always heard that the chains should go on the front for the
reasons you mentioned, to let the vehicle pull you through the snow
and becasue of the extra weight in front.
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(303) 538-1376, {ihnp4|hogpc}!drux3!darrellhakanson@orstcs.UUCP (12/17/83)
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orstcs!hakanson Dec 16 21:20:00 1983
When I rode around with the guy that does the snowfall measurements
in the middle of winter, we were pushing through snow about 4 feet
deep, like a little plow, etc. He had studded snow tires on all
four wheels, and no chains. Of course, the snow wasn't really bad
yet, according to him. But when it gets bad, he puts the chains
on the front. When it gets worse, he puts them on the front AND
the back. When it gets worse than that, he rides in a snowcat.
Another friend was towing a 30-foot trailer house over the Siskiyou
Pass (between Oregon & California on I-5), with an older Ford Bronco.
He had chains on the front, rear, and trailer wheels, since he didn't
want the thing to jacknife.
As a possibly irrelevant observation, my FWD (F as in FRONT) has
never broken the rear loose, unless the front also came loose.
And FWD cars are notoriously nose-heavy, so it seems unlikely that
a pickup (or other 4WD) will have the rear end come around unless
the front end comes loose too. Of course, I've never done it,
so I can't say for sure....
Marion Hakanson CSnet: hakanson@oregon-state
UUCP : {hp-pcd,teklabs}!orstcs!hakansonberry@zehntel.UUCP (12/20/83)
#R:hplabs:-208200:zinfandel:3200040:000:31 zinfandel!joe Dec 19 15:42:00 1983 I would put chains all around.
seifert@ihuxl.UUCP (D.A. Seifert) (12/21/83)
> As a possibly irrelevant observation, my FWD (F as in FRONT) has > never broken the rear loose, unless the front also came loose. > And FWD cars are notoriously nose-heavy, so it seems unlikely that > a pickup (or other 4WD) will have the rear end come around unless > the front end comes loose too. Of course, I've never done it, > so I can't say for sure.... > > Marion Hakanson CSnet: hakanson@oregon-state > UUCP : {hp-pcd,teklabs}!orstcs!hakanson Apparently it is almost impossible to get oversteer in a FWD vehicle. A top Saab rallye driver (I forget his name) has invented a technique to accomplish this (so as to get around corners faster), but he went through a few cars before he got it working. If a top driver has to work that hard to get oversteer *when (s)he's trying for it*, I'm not real worried about having it occur running around on the street at 8/10ths. (except for Murphy's Law, of course) FWDs seem to have truely massive amounts of understeer. -sigh- As long as I'm on the horn, is it possible to heel-and-toe in a Rabbit? It's become second nature in the 320i, but in the Rabbit the gas pedal seems to be about three miles away from the brake pedal. And does anyone make a kit to shorten the throw of the shift lever? I don't like leaning forward to hit 3rd. I could swear they took the shift linkage right out of the beetle. (_C_a_r & _D_r_i_v_e_r says not to modify your beater? Who listens to them?) And does anyone make large, deep, 6-point metric sockets? Anyway, everyone have a merry Christmas, and don't get run into by any Cads with defective turn-signals. -- _____ /_____\ from the flying doghouse of /_______\ Snoopy |___| ____|___|_____ ihnp4!ihuxl!seifert