howardl@wb3ffv.ampr.org ( WB3FFV) (01/03/90)
Hello All, I am wondering if anybody has tried using the Wyse-150 terminals under UNIX or Xenix ?? They look like nice terminals, and claim to have DOS compatibility. I am very interested in hearing how they work under VP/IP as this is a concern of many customers. Please Email or reply to comp.unix. i386, as I read it daily... If anybody has any termcap or terminfo files for the Wyse-150 I would very much appreicate if you would mail me a copy! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internet : howardl@wb3ffv.ampr.org | Howard D. Leadmon UUCP : wb3ffv!howardl | Fast Computer Service, Inc. TELEX : 152252474 | P. O. Box 171 Telephone : (301)-335-2206 | Chase, MD 21027-0171
campbell@Thalatta.COM (Bill Campbell) (01/07/90)
In article <2210@wb3ffv.ampr.org> howardl@wb3ffv.ampr.org ( WB3FFV) writes: > > Hello All, > >I am wondering if anybody has tried using the Wyse-150 terminals under >UNIX or Xenix ?? They look like nice terminals, and claim to have DOS I have tried the Wyse-150 extensively under SCO Xenix 386 and found them better than a Wyse-60 or most other terminals for several reasons: 1. Better print-through in VT100 modes (it doesn't pass-through the printer-off codes through to the printer). 2. Passed all 8-bits through to the printer. 3. Standard Parallel printer port. We use terminals on Point-of-Sale and accounting systems where we print using the terminal's printer port. Most terminals using the TVI/Wyse50/Wyse60 (i.e. non-ansi) emulations have codes that conflict with printer control information (^R is used for print size control on many OKIDATA printers). Many terminals aren't smart enough when transparent printing to look-ahead far enough to catch the printer-off codes in ansi emulations before they go to the printer. This results in 4i's throughout your printout making the terminals useless with the multiplexing printer drivers supplied on ARNET, computone, ... intelligent boards. The Wyse-150 seems to work well in the native (almost wy60) mode, but I have had some problems: 1. (vt100) The protected field attributes don't work so you cannot clear unprotected fields quickly. 2. With the 101-key board you cannot always get codes from the keys above the arrow keys. Since there are no function keys above the keypad I like to use these keys as synonyms for function keys so the operator doesn't have to use two hands for data entry. We were going to use wyse-150's as our standard terminal in spite of these problems until we tried the LINK-MC5. The mc5 seems to be a much better terminal than the wy150 and they are about the same price (Link is owned by Wyse). 1. Two serial ports and a standard parallel printer port (PC standard cable). The data communications parameters are independent on each port and you can use the terminal on two separate ports and hot-key between the applications. 2. Many more emulations (vt320..., vt220, vt100, wy60...). 3. Better customer support. 4. The auxiliary keys above the arrows on the 101-keyboard all send codes in all the emulations we have tried. We have found some bugs in the current (2.03) firmware on the mc5 including: 1. Remote printing doesn't work in VT220-7 emulation, but sends the printer output back down the active serial port :-). 2. The auxiliary port only seems to work with xon-xoff handshaking even though DTR is selected. 3. Software selection of the wy60 mode resets all the communications handshaking to xon-xoff overriding the setup. These are being fixed in the 2.04 firmware to be released in the next week or so. Both these terminals have a PC-term mode and work with VP/IX at least as I have been willing to mess with this mode. Disclaimer: Celestial Software has no affiliation with any of the manufacturers mentioned above. -- ....microsoft--\ Bill Campbell; Celestial Software ...uw-beaver-----!thebes!camco!bill 6641 East Mercer Way ....fluke------/ Mercer Island, Wa 98040 ....hplsla----/ (206) 232-4164
macy@fmsystm.UUCP (Macy Hallock) (01/09/90)
In article <2546@thebes.Thalatta.COM> campbell@Thalatta.COM (Bill Campbell) writes: >In article <2210@wb3ffv.ampr.org> howardl@wb3ffv.ampr.org ( WB3FFV) writes: [...discussion of WY-150 terminals and use of Link MC-5 terminals as a better alternative ommitted...] We used WY-60 terminals here and tried the Link MC-3 as well. Neither terminal was perfect... The primary problem with the WY-60 was reliability. That's why we are reluctant to commit to the WY-150, which seems to run OK. The Link MC-3 had a couple of problems of its own: - no 101 key style AT keyboard, just a RT style 101 keyboard with the functions keys in groups of file at the top, rather than in groups of four like AT 101 style. Our users bitched a fit about this. Not bad once you get used to it, though. - a tendency to lose the setup info stored in NVRAM. We originally thought this to be static related, but its not. This is our most serious technical problem. The MC-3 has a three year warranty, which was reassuring to us after the WY-60 problems. We haven't yet had to send back a Link MC-3 for repair except for the setup loss problem mentioned above. We still have no solution for this problem, even though its very intermittent and you can go months with no problems and then... We have not tried the MC-5 yet, but we are thinking about it. It does not have a three year warranty, though :( Anyone know anything more about the MC-3 problem here? Macy M. Hallock, Jr. macy@NCoast.ORG uunet!aablue!fmsystm!macy F M Systems, Inc. {uunet!backbone}!cwjcc.cwru.edu!ncoast!fmsystm!macy 150 Highland Drive Voice: +1 216 723-3000 Ext 251 Fax: +1 216 723-3223 Medina, Ohio 44256 USA Cleveland:273-3000 Akron:239-4994 (Dial 251 at tone) (Insert favorite disclaimer here) (What if I gave a .sig and nobody cared?)