allbery@NCoast.ORG (Brandon S. Allbery) (02/17/90)
Is any third-party vendor planning to port Open Look to "SCO's" version of X?
As I noted in an earlier post, I got to try out OSF/Motif... and disliked it
intensely. (I find MS-Windows-like environments to be ugly, unfriendly, and
generally unusable... 3-D look notwithstanding, all of the above applies to
Motif.) From what little I've seen of Open Look, I suspect I'll like it a lot
better---but I'd need to find a version that would run under Open Desktop
because that's about the only X system I'm likely to have any access to in the
next few months.
++Brandon
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uunet!cwjcc.cwru.edu!ncoast!allbery ncoast!allbery@cwjcc.cwru.edurick@pcrat.uucp (Rick Richardson) (02/18/90)
In article <1990Feb17.021923.11209@NCoast.ORG> allbery@NCoast.ORG (Brandon S. Allbery) writes: >Is any third-party vendor planning to port Open Look to "SCO's" version of X? I would guess that Open Look will arrive on SCO with SVR4. Its the same story at INTERACTIVE. To get it today, I think you have to switch to AT&T's X; something I've had to seriously consider myself. [ Now, would that be a third party UNIX (SCO's) hosting AT&T's X, or would it be a third party X (AT&T's) hosted under SCO's UNIX? :-) ] BTW, I share your feelings Re: Motif's look and feel, and there's some solid technical reasons to not like it, and a some damn good market share reasons to go with Open Look (Sun and AT&T). On the other hand, IBM's new RISC machines are a very convincing reason to go with what big blue will use. -- Rick Richardson - PC Research, Inc., uunet!pcrat!rick, (201) 389-8963
evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) (02/18/90)
In article <1990Feb18.032549.13220@pcrat.uucp> rick@pcrat.UUCP (Rick Richardson) writes: >In article <1990Feb17.021923.11209@NCoast.ORG> allbery@NCoast.ORG (Brandon S. Allbery) writes: >>Is any third-party vendor planning to port Open Look to "SCO's" version of X? >I would guess that Open Look will arrive on SCO with SVR4. Its >the same story at INTERACTIVE. SCO has made no commitment to use release 4, and may indeed choose not to license it. SCO has not been at any of the press conferences Unix International has held on SVR4, and was consipcuously absent from the UI release 4 displays at Uniforum and Unix Expo... Which means some third party will still have to port Open Look. -- Evan Leibovitch, Sound Software, located in beautiful Brampton, Ontario evan@telly.on.ca / {uunet!attcan,utzoo}!telly!evan / (416) 452-0504 If they call it WordPerfect, why is it on revision five?
dyer@spdcc.COM (Steve Dyer) (02/19/90)
In article <1990Feb18.032549.13220@pcrat.uucp> rick@pcrat.UUCP (Rick Richardson) writes: >I would guess that Open Look will arrive on SCO with SVR4. Its >the same story at INTERACTIVE. To get it today, I think you have >to switch to AT&T's X; something I've had to seriously consider myself. Er, unless I'm missing something, I don't see what is so unique about Open Desktop or any other 386 X11 implementation that you couldn't take the freely-available "XView" toolkit and window manager (part of X11R4's contributed software) and build it. As far as I know, it only requires a working Xlib library--it doesn't use the Xt intrinsics, unlike AT&T's Open Look. -- Steve Dyer dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer dyer@arktouros.mit.edu, dyer@hstbme.mit.edu
blw@hprmokg.HP.COM (Bob Weisickle) (03/03/90)
I am running the SCO UNIX system V/386 package. I this seems like a lame question, but how would I get a copy of the X11 package and development kit for this system. Also, is a bulletin board available for finding applications that would run or could be ported to this system. Bob.
dionj@sco.COM (Dion L. Johnson) (03/05/90)
In article <29300002@hprmokg.HP.COM> blw@hprmokg.HP.COM (Bob Weisickle) writes: >I am running the SCO UNIX system V/386 package. I this seems >like a lame question, but how would I get a copy of the X11 package >and development kit for this system. Also, is a bulletin board >available for finding applications that would run or could be >ported to this system. >Bob. It's not heresy, Bob. :-) Software developers and OEMs can get the SCO Xsight development system direct from SCO right now in what we call an "early availability" product. If you want the complete Open Desktop development package, that is available also. There is a private newsgroup available to Open Desktop developers. You get access to it when you have the dev sys. As the system begins to be widely used, I think we will see more of the *.sources packages checked out on Open Desktop, and available at the usual archive sites. SCO ships Open Desktop with several diskettes of well-known X applications; we will add more as time goes by. I trust you know that XENIX applications just work on SCO UNIX, and there are quite a few of those available at the archive sites also. If you'd like details about all this, pls email your US Mail address to devrel@sco.com Dion L. Johnson SCO Developer Relations Technical Mgr 400 Encinal St. Santa Cruz, CA 95061 Bangpath: ...{decvax!microsof, ucbvax!ucscc, sun, uunet}!sco!dionj Domain style: dionj@sco.com FAX: 408-458-4227 Telephone: 408-425-7222
palowoda@fiver.UUCP (Bob Palowoda) (03/07/90)
From article <2936@scorn.sco.COM>, by dionj@sco.COM (Dion L. Johnson): > [some stuff deleted] > There is a private newsgroup available to Open Desktop developers. You Now think about this sentence Dion. It just dosn't sound right. ---Bob -- Bob Palowoda indetech!fiver!palowoda *Home of Fiver BBS* login: bbs Home {sun|daisy}!ys2!fiver!palowoda (415)-623-8809 1200/2400 Work {sun|pyramid|decwrl}!megatest!palowoda (415)-623-8806 2400/9600/19200 TB Voice: (415)-623-7495 palowoda@fiver Public access UNIX XBBS
dionj@netcom.UUCP (Dion Johnson) (03/08/90)
In article <1014@fiver.UUCP> palowoda@fiver.UUCP (Bob Palowoda) writes: >From article <2936@scorn.sco.COM>, by dionj@sco.COM (Dion L. Johnson): >[some stuff deleted] >> There is a private newsgroup available to Open Desktop developers. You > Now think about this sentence Dion. It just dosn't sound right. >---Bob >Bob Palowoda indetech!fiver!palowoda *Home of Fiver BBS* login: bbs <snicker> ... well.. um.. yes. OK, "There is a _special_ newsgroup available to Open Desktop developers." Thank you, Bob. Kidding aside, SCO would like to have a public newsgroup for Open Desktop, but it would be unseemly for us to call for creation of same, right? Perhaps someone will step up to this task. The present newsgroup is cloaked in nondisclosure agreements, so we cannot reveal it, but now that the product is shipping, and the dev sys is shipping in "early availability" form, it makes sense to have a public newsgroup. SCO will take an active, but not dominant role, if the net community seems to desire it. As usual, comments welcome. Dion L Johnson SCO Developer Relations dionj@sco.com (by day)
petem@sdipl.oz (Peter Mason) (03/09/90)
In article <1014@fiver.UUCP> palowoda@fiver.UUCP (Bob Palowoda) writes: >> There is a private newsgroup available to Open Desktop developers. You > > Now think about this sentence Dion. It just dosn't sound right. Well it may be available to SOME ODT developers, and SCO doco. suggests this, but you have to be in certain part of the world for it to be viable for access. Despite much protestation, it's not available locally in this country :-( -- ACSnet: petem@sdipl.sdi.oz.au UUCP: munnari!sdipl.sdi.oz.au!petem@uunet.uu.net Software Developments Pty. Ltd., 845 Pacific Hwy., Chatswood. NSW 2065 Australia VOICE: +61-2-411 7200 FAX: +61-2-411 6764