[comp.unix.i386] 2nd call to vote comp.unix.sco, undecided? PLEAD READ!

tim@comcon.UUCP (Tim Brown) (05/02/90)

Personally I have benifited time and time again from the mix in this
group.  Unix is unix and we all (as in all brands) help each other and
benifit from the association.  I say we leave it the way it is.


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dma@pcssc.UUCP (Dave Armbrust) (05/03/90)

In article <382@comcon.UUCP> tim@comcon.UUCP (Tim Brown) writes:
>
>Personally I have benifited time and time again from the mix in this
>group.  Unix is unix and we all (as in all brands) help each other and
>benifit from the association.  I say we leave it the way it is.

I beleive that one thing we can count on is that things will not stay
the way they are.  There is too much to be desired in the current
break down of comp.unix.  Changes will occur.  Letting SCO users
have their own group (comp.unix.sco) is one of the less frighting
things that can happen!

paul@dialogic.com (The Imaginative Moron aka Joey Pheromone) (05/03/90)

In article <221@pcssc.UUCP> dma@pcssc.UUCP (Dave Armbrust) writes:
>In article <382@comcon.UUCP> tim@comcon.UUCP (Tim Brown) writes:
>>
>>Personally I have benifited time and time again from the mix in this
>>group.  Unix is unix and we all (as in all brands) help each other and
>>benifit from the association.  I say we leave it the way it is.
>
>I beleive that one thing we can count on is that things will not stay
>the way they are.  There is too much to be desired in the current

Dave, you can beleive what you want, but whether it matches reality is
another matter. I see *no* such tendency in this group - nearly all
the replies to your push for comp.sco.unix have been along the lines of
"I like it fine as it is". *I* believe the voting will show this -
only time will show which of us has the correct belief. I have
already registered a "nay" vote. 

Also, I did not receive an acknowledgement of my vote. It's usual to
do this, so the sender can be sure it got there, and didn't end up on
the floor. I think it would be appreciated if you alter you ballot box
to do this, especially in the light of the controversial nature of the
vote.

I still do not understand why you want to create comp.unix.sco. I saw
no objective discussion in the charter for the group - only a series of
endorsements by people whose impartially was in question (this is not
the way "things are done" around here - which I think explains the
noise that the posting generated). 

As has been pointed out, most of the traffic in this group is generic
UNIX 386 questions. It seems to me that the only thing that will
happen is that SCO users will post generic UNIX questions to it, and
cross-post to here, with the result that comp.unix.sco becomes a total
subset of comp.unix.i386.  Creating a separate group is the *wrong
way* to achieve this partitioning. It uses a lot of resources, which
are precious. You can achieve the same effect with any decent news
reader - simply use kill files, etc.

Can you give an example of the sort of question or discussion that
could be served by comp.unix.sco, but *not* by comp.unix.i386 ?



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ela@bdgltd.UUCP (Ed Ackerman Programmer) (05/03/90)

In article <382@comcon.UUCP> tim@comcon.UUCP (Tim Brown) writes:
>
>Personally I have benifited time and time again from the mix in this
>group.  Unix is unix and we all (as in all brands) help each other and
>benifit from the association.  I say we leave it the way it is.
>

Amen, brother. Since, according to the last figures I saw, SCO has a majority
of the installed/sold systems (Xenix) why bother? It's bad enough that I have
wade through 3 or 4 groups to get answers now. Isn't the whole point of OSF/UI
to eliminate all the differing versions of Unix out there? Why when the Unix
vendors are starting to get their act together, are we arguing about spliting
a group off?

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aland@infmx.UUCP (Dr. Scump) (05/05/90)

In article <54@grumbly.UUCP> root@grumbly.UUCP writes:
>But the people who aren't interested in dos have to wade through all the
>dos articles to get to the unix posts.  At times there are quite a few
>dos related posts in c.u.i386.

Then how about comp.os.dos to consolidate DOS-specific issues, leaving
comp.sys.ibm.pc for hardware/firmware issues?  Wasn't this idea batted
around a while back?

>
>  UNIX
>--------   would be a natural for its own group.
>  DOS

Sure, something like comp.unix.dosmerge   (or something less proprietary)
>Is anyone interested in getting this going?  I'm not conversant in making
>new groups (no flames please - fry some ants with a magnifying glass
>or something).

Let's see what kind of feedback comes out...  in any event, I fail to
see how this helps to motivate an SCO-specific additional newsgroup...

> - -   Richard Ducoty                               ..uunet!grumbly!root

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