[comp.unix.i386] DTK motherboards and ISC 2.2?

sastdr@unx.sas.com (Thomas David Rivers) (06/28/90)

   I noticed the recent discussion about DTK motherboards and ISC version 2.2.

   I was considering buying ISC v2.2, but I own the older DTK KEEN 2000 
  motherboard; so naturally, I am concerned.

   Do these problems relate strictly to the newer PEM2500 board, or would
  they be evident on my non-cacheing KEEN2000 board as well?  In other words,
  does anyone know if version 2.2 works on a DTK KEEN 2000 (20mhz) machine??

   If there are problems, does anyone know if ESIX runs well on a 
  DTK KEEN 2000?

   	- Any info is appreciated -

	   - Dave Rivers -
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bright@sctc.com (Dave Bright) (06/28/90)

sastdr@unx.sas.com (Thomas David Rivers) writes:
>   I noticed the recent discussion about DTK motherboards and ISC version 2.2.

>   Do these problems relate strictly to the newer PEM2500 board, or would
>  they be evident on my non-cacheing KEEN2000 board as well?  In other words,
>  does anyone know if version 2.2 works on a DTK KEEN 2000 (20mhz) machine??

>   If there are problems, does anyone know if ESIX runs well on a 
>  DTK KEEN 2000?

I must have missed that discussion.  I have a DTK 25MHz board with 64K cache
and have no problems running ESIX; I can't think of any reason that ESIX
would not run without a cache.
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dkn@neptune.iex.com (Dave Noden) (06/28/90)

sastdr@unx.sas.com (Thomas David Rivers) writes:
>   I noticed the recent discussion about DTK motherboards and ISC version 2.2.
>   I was considering buying ISC v2.2, but I own the older DTK KEEN 2000 
>  motherboard; so naturally, I am concerned.

I too am considering ISC v2.2, but own a DTK PEM2500 board.

>   Do these problems relate strictly to the newer PEM2500 board, or would
>  they be evident on my non-cacheing KEEN2000 board as well?  In other words,
>  does anyone know if version 2.2 works on a DTK KEEN 2000 (20mhz) machine??

What were the problems relating to the PEM2500?  Have they been fixed??
I know of people with ISC v2.0.2 running on the PEM2500, so why is
ISC v2.2 now broken???  Have either DTK or ISC responded????

>   	- Any info is appreciated -

Ditto.

>	   - Dave Rivers -
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nvk@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Norman Kohn) (06/30/90)

In article <1990Jun27.183454.13489@unx.sas.com> sastdr@unx.sas.com (Thomas David Rivers) writes:
>
>
>
>   I noticed the recent discussion about DTK motherboards and ISC version 2.2.
>
>   I was considering buying ISC v2.2, but I own the older DTK KEEN 2000 
>  motherboard; so naturally, I am concerned.
>
>   Do these problems relate strictly to the newer PEM2500 board, or would
>  they be evident on my non-cacheing KEEN2000 board as well?  In other words,
>  does anyone know if version 2.2 works on a DTK KEEN 2000 (20mhz) machine??
>
I missed the earlier DTK discussion (crash caused loss of news feed)
but have had some experience.  A 25 Mhz cache board purchased one
year ago (PEM2500?) runs ISC 2.0.2 ok, but fails randomly with
1542 SCSI board though it passes the board's on-board tests: I finally
had to swap it out.  An older Wedge motherboard (20 Mhz, no cache)
is less flashy but runs reliably.

Anyone have copies of the earlier DTK discussion?

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jde@everex.UUCP (-Jeff Ellis) (07/03/90)

In article <1990Jun28.131523.27381@sctc.com> bright@sctc.com (Dave Bright) writes:
>sastdr@unx.sas.com (Thomas David Rivers) writes:
>>   If there are problems, does anyone know if ESIX runs well on a 
>>  DTK KEEN 2000?
>
>I must have missed that discussion.  I have a DTK 25MHz board with 64K cache
>and have no problems running ESIX; I can't think of any reason that ESIX
>would not run without a cache.

I have heard of people having problems with DTK boards with DTK BIOS, if you
use a NON-DTK BIOS there should be no problem (i.e. Phoenix or AMI). If you 
are planning on buying a new computer and ESIX or any other UNIX the best is to
get the OS and try the boot disk on the system before you buy it.


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dbullis@cognos.UUCP (Dave Bullis) (07/03/90)

In article <dkn.646588914@neptune> dkn@neptune.iex.com (Dave Noden) writes:
>sastdr@unx.sas.com (Thomas David Rivers) writes:
>>   I noticed the recent discussion about DTK motherboards and ISC version 2.2.
>>   I was considering buying ISC v2.2, but I own the older DTK KEEN 2000 
>>  motherboard; so naturally, I am concerned.
>
>I too am considering ISC v2.2, but own a DTK PEM2500 board.
>
>>   Do these problems relate strictly to the newer PEM2500 board, or would
>>  they be evident on my non-cacheing KEEN2000 board as well?  In other words,
>>  does anyone know if version 2.2 works on a DTK KEEN 2000 (20mhz) machine??
>
>What were the problems relating to the PEM2500?  Have they been fixed??
>I know of people with ISC v2.0.2 running on the PEM2500, so why is
>ISC v2.2 now broken???  Have either DTK or ISC responded????

I just installed ISC 2.2 on my system:
	DTK PEM2500 motherboard 4 Mb memory
	WD1007WAH controller
	Miniscribe 9380E

I've installed vpix, s/w dev sys, tenplus plus some other riff-raff with
no problems (well, it did take me awhile to get the low level formatting
correct).

I've run the byte benchmarks, and I'll post the results if there's any
interest.

Re: problems with DTK 2500.
      Rumour has that there are/where problems with the BIOS and Novell.
      ISC hadn't listed the DTK motherboards on the 2.2 compatibility
      list because they hadn't tested them yet (of course they can't
      tell you if it failed or just wasn't tested).
      DTK tested ISC on Mar 9 (didn't know which version) ok.

Can't say anything about the KEEN 2000.
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