[net.auto] Turbo toilet seats ?!

an@hou2h.UUCP (A.NGUYEN) (02/21/84)

Why is everybody talking about turbos as if they are the greatest
things since orgasms ?!!!   Turbos have many disadvantages that few
people have mentioned:

	- increased complexity;  more moving parts, more
	servo circuits, etc;

	- turbos frequently spin well over 100k rpm -- can
	you imagine a lubrication failure at that speed ?
	oil passages clogged up, oil breaks down and turns
	to water, oil leak resulting in low pressure, etc ?
	turbine wheels are made of exotic metals to withstand
	intense heat; those babies are expensive !

	- increased heat; turbo engines without oil coolers
	are asking for disaster.

	- turbo lag, compared to a normally aspirated (and
	maybe bigger) engine of the same peak hp

If you want more power, bigger engines or even supercharging are
simpler and more reliable ways to get it.  Turbos are a sales
gimmick imposed on the buying public by car companies.  Turbos
remind me of scr*wing in a hammock just to show you can do it !

	Au Nguyen

P.S.  GM can keep the Turbo Fiero, just gimme the HO V6 !

dmmartindale@watcgl.UUCP (Dave Martindale) (02/22/84)

Turbos are NOT just a gimmick.  A turbocharger which provides boost
at relatively low RPM is a way of getting a large amount of power out
of a small, light engine.  This is useful for "performance" cars.
A turbocharger which is designed to provide boost only at higher
RPM's allows a given size engine to provide the same sort of fuel
economy in cruise that it would without the turbine, but considerably
more power for acceleration.  Or, to put it another way, for a
given amount of power available for passing, you can use a smaller
engine and get better fuel economy.  (Unfortunately, they don't show up
on economy cars because of the higher initial cost.  Same is true of
fuel injection, for the most part.)

Yes, there is a lag in the availability of the extra power.  If you
really want instant power, buy the monstrous engine and you can
pay for its fuel appetite.  If other people find different tradeoffs
more appropriate for them, "to each his own", eh?