[comp.unix.i386] Lotus 1-2-3 was compiled with GNU C compiler!?

chip@tct.uucp (Chip Salzenberg) (07/10/90)

According to peterf@haddock.ima.isc.com (Peter Fischman):
> I recently came off a project that ported a DOS application,
> Lotus 1-2-3 (you may have heard of it), to System V and Xenix.
> We developed on 386/ix and used gcc and gmake.
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Oh, this is rich.

Lotus ("We're Not Competitive, So We Sue Everyone") Corporation
compiles its flagship product... with the GNU C compiler.

I'm so amused I could just vomit.
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hogue@hsi.UUCP (Jim Hogue) (07/13/90)

In article <2699D59A.D60@tct.uucp> chip@tct.uucp (Chip Salzenberg) writes:
>Lotus ("We're Not Competitive, So We Sue Everyone") Corporation
>compiles its flagship product... with the GNU C compiler.

Yea, I was just asked to port some stuff to the DG AViiON and guess
what, gcc is the C compiler that comes with DG's unix.  What ever happened
to all the copyleft concerns?  Does this mean the source to lotus 123
and all of unix (at least DG's version) is now in the public domain?
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pim@cti-software.nl (Pim Zandbergen) (07/13/90)

hogue@hsi.UUCP (Jim Hogue) writes:

>Yea, I was just asked to port some stuff to the DG AViiON and guess
>what, gcc is the C compiler that comes with DG's unix.  What ever happened
>to all the copyleft concerns?  Does this mean the source to lotus 123
>and all of unix (at least DG's version) is now in the public domain?

I believe DG supplies GCC with a DG-written gnulib, that
is not covered by the copyleft.
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guy@auspex.auspex.com (Guy Harris) (07/15/90)

 >>Yea, I was just asked to port some stuff to the DG AViiON and guess
 >>what, gcc is the C compiler that comes with DG's unix.  What ever happened
 >>to all the copyleft concerns?  Does this mean the source to lotus 123
 >>and all of unix (at least DG's version) is now in the public domain?
 >
 >I believe DG supplies GCC with a DG-written gnulib, that
 >is not covered by the copyleft.

Or, to put it another way, "just because something is *compiled* with
GCC doesn't mean it's GNUware; it has to include GNU code directly, not
assembly-language code extruded by GCC."

(I don't know what "gnulib" is, but they probably provide an
AT&T-and-Berkeley-and-DG-and-assorted-other-people-written "libc", just
like most other UNIX vendors.)

niklas@appli.se (Niklas Hallqvist) (07/15/90)

In article <1990Jul13.134649.1794@cti-software.nl> pim@cti-software.nl (Pim Zandbergen) writes:

> hogue@hsi.UUCP (Jim Hogue) writes:
> 
> >Yea, I was just asked to port some stuff to the DG AViiON and guess
> >what, gcc is the C compiler that comes with DG's unix.  What ever happened
> >to all the copyleft concerns?  Does this mean the source to lotus 123
> >and all of unix (at least DG's version) is now in the public domain?
> 
> I believe DG supplies GCC with a DG-written gnulib, that
> is not covered by the copyleft.

	What's the matter with you?  Even if DG supplies GCC with
another gnulib, the FSF version of gnulib is *not* restricted by
the GNU General Public License.  There has never been the case that
programs compiled with GCC falls under the copyleft just for that
reason.  Who have you been listening to?  If this was the case the
GNU project would be virtually useless!  Noone but academics would
be using FSF software.  FSF would die because they wouldn't get any
donations.  BTW. Do you think that because you archived a program
with the GNU tar, you also make your program PD?  It's just an
analogy, but a striking one.

				Niklas
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