[comp.unix.i386] "talk" problems with 386i and SPARC

monty@blackhole.lerc.nasa.gov (Monty Andro) (07/28/90)

I have been having problems using "talk" between a sun 386i and SPARC
workstation.  I get the following error message on the SPARC station
when I respond to a pending "talk" request from a 386i:

        unable to connect with initiator: address family not supported
        by protocal family (47).

Each machine prints messages requesting the user to respond to a pending
talk connection, but when you respond the connection is never made.
So, some connection and communication is accomplished but not completly.
Can anybody explain this ?  Can I correct this problem with a different
software package or command ?  Maybe it can't be done.

Any help will be appreciated.

monty 

guy@auspex.auspex.com (Guy Harris) (07/29/90)

>Can anybody explain this ?

Yes, the SunOS "talk" program is based on the 4.2BSD "talk" program,
whose messages are sent over the wire in a machine-dependent format. 
The original Sun version had some heuristics to try to make it work
between VAXes and 68K-based Suns; those heuristics would probably have
made it work between 68K-based and 80386-based Suns as well.

Then the heuristics were changed to make it work between 68K-based and
SPARC-based Suns; this may have broken its ability to work between
68K-based Suns and VAXes, and/or may not have increased its ability to
work between SPARC-based Suns and VAXes or 386 machines.

>Can I correct this problem with a different software package or command ?

Yes, throw out the SunOS "talk" software on all your Suns and grab the
4.3-tahoe "talk" software instead.  It's in the "AT&T-free BSD software"
archives on "uunet"; in 4.3BSD, Berkeley fixed it to send stuff over the
wire in a much more machine-independent fashion.