[comp.unix.i386] Esix and RLL?

larry@belch.Berkeley.EDU (Larry Foard) (08/17/90)

In esix literature I recieved around 2 months ago it indicated that esix does
not support RLL drives, has this problem been corrected in the latest version
of esix? I would really like to be able to stick with the RLL drives I am
currently using, since switching to an ESDI or SCSI drive would cost more
than esix :( If RLL is still not supported is there any way to get around this
problem? (sector remapping controllers, or a PD device driver?)
Are there any other 386 unixs that have features similar to esix but do
support RLL drives.

Other esix questions:
 The literature mentioned BSD sockets are these included with esix
 or are they extra?
 Is RFS anything like NFS? Can you mount pieces of remote file systems?
Slightly related question:
 Is there any public domain or relatively cheap software that will allow
 an MSDOS computer to run telnet and ftp. (If it is PD where can it be
 found)

And for something completely different:
 I noticed an earlier message asking about reasonable pricing for MACH 386.
 I would say at most it should be only slightly more than 386 sys V, but
 realistically unix is currently being kept out of the PC market because
 it generally costs more than the system it is run on. Although Unix is
 tremendously superior to any of the junk coming out of microsoft it is
 losing out to things like windows 3.0 because of the price. Microsoft is
 a billion dollar company not because they make anything worth selling or
 sell it for alots, but because they sell alots of it at low prices. 

jon@savant.uucp (Jon Gefaell) (08/20/90)

In article <1990Aug17.051018.17077@agate.berkeley.edu> larry@belch.Berkeley.EDU (Larry Foard) writes:
>In esix literature I recieved around 2 months ago it indicated that esix does
>not support RLL drives, has this problem been corrected in the latest version
>of esix? I would really like to be able to stick with the RLL drives I am

ESIX works fine with RLL drives.

>Are there any other 386 unixs that have features similar to esix but do
>support RLL drives.

From what I can tell, NO. Interactive has annoyware and non-support
, SCO has high Price$ and us non-standard, etc... Intel (formerly Bell
Tech) I havn't heard much about...

>
>Other esix questions:
> The literature mentioned BSD sockets are these included with esix
> or are they extra?
Included

> Is RFS anything like NFS? Can you mount pieces of remote file systems?
Supposedly better than RFS, from a technical standpoint, but NFS is more
widely supported..? NFS is an option from ESIX

>Slightly related question:
> Is there any public domain or relatively cheap software that will allow
> an MSDOS computer to run telnet and ftp. (If it is PD where can it be
> found)
NCSA has a telnet/ftp/whois, and more implementation, completely free.
Available from _many_ sites...

>And for something completely different:
> I noticed an earlier message asking about reasonable pricing for MACH 386.
> I would say at most it should be only slightly more than 386 sys V, but
> realistically unix is currently being kept out of the PC market because
> it generally costs more than the system it is run on. Although Unix is
> tremendously superior to any of the junk coming out of microsoft it is
> losing out to things like windows 3.0 because of the price. Microsoft is
> a billion dollar company not because they make anything worth selling or
> sell it for alots, but because they sell alots of it at low prices. 

Balderdash. Don't compare apples and oranges. Poppycock and tommyrot as well:)

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jde@everex.UUCP (-Jeff Ellis) (08/21/90)

In article <1990Aug17.051018.17077@agate.berkeley.edu> larry@belch.Berkeley.EDU (Larry Foard) writes:
>In esix literature I recieved around 2 months ago it indicated that esix does
>not support RLL drives, has this problem been corrected in the latest version
>of esix? I would really like to be able to stick with the RLL drives I am
>currently using, since switching to an ESDI or SCSI drive would cost more
>than esix :( If RLL is still not supported is there any way to get around this
>problem? (sector remapping controllers, or a PD device driver?)

Some customers have been able to work with WD1003 RRL, WD1006 RRL, and AHA RLL
controllers. We have not test in house these cards. To try to lower support
problems due to customers using non-RRL drives with RRL controllers, we do
not say we support them. You are on your own with RRL.

>Other esix questions:
> The literature mentioned BSD sockets are these included with esix
> or are they extra?

ESIX has some socket support but it in not fully BSD. If you must have sockets
then get our Network STREAMS Proggramming Guide for how to use them.

> Is RFS anything like NFS? Can you mount pieces of remote file systems?

Yes RFS is a AT&T package that works like NFS.

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