[sci.military] Tank question

aws@vax3.iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer) (04/29/89)

From: aws@vax3.iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer)

My dad has a question: Why do modern tanks use a smooth bore barrel
on their guns? Doesn't that hurt accuracy?

  Thanks
  Allen

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henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) (05/02/89)

From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
>My dad has a question: Why do modern tanks use a smooth bore barrel
>on their guns? Doesn't that hurt accuracy?

The shells are generally fin-stabilized, which gets back a lot of the
accuracy.  Not all, last I heard, but a lot.  Smoothbore guns have a
higher muzzle velocity, due to reduced barrel drag, and are better
suited to laser-guided shells and shaped-charge shells, which don't
want to spin.  (For laser guidance, spin complicates guidance; for
shaped charges, centrifugal force interferes with formation of the
"jet" when the charge fires.)  I'd imagine the barrels also last longer.
Of late, it's looked worthwhile.

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malloy@nprdc.navy.mil (Sean Malloy) (05/02/89)

From: malloy@nprdc.navy.mil (Sean Malloy)

In article <6077@cbnews.ATT.COM> aws@vax3.iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer) writes:
>My dad has a question: Why do modern tanks use a smooth bore barrel
>on their guns? Doesn't that hurt accuracy?

The purpose of rifling a barrel is to spin the projectile so that it
is more resistant to wobbling in flight, which generates unbalanced
aerodynamic forces that reduce the accuracy of the gun.

Most of the shells that are used by front-line tanks come in two
types: APFSDS (Armor Piercing Fin Stabilized Discarding Sabot) and
HEAT (High Explosive Anti Tank). An APFSDS round is essentially a
large metal dart -- a (relatively) thin pointed rod with fins on the
back that stabilize the round the same way an arrow is stabilized, so
that the shell doesn't have to be spun for stabilization. The rifling
of the barrel places additional drag on the shell (in order to
transform some of the driving force from accelerating the shell to
spinning the shell), and also wears down the rifling. Without rifling,
the shells can be fired at higher muzzle velocities, and reduce the
barrel wear.

For HEAT rounds, the answer is a lot simpler. HEAT rounds, also called
'shaped-charge warheads', depend on the geometry of the warhead to
generate a high-speed jet of molten metal from a metal facing on a
conical depression in an explosive charge, which penetrates the
target's armor. If you spin a HEAT round, the rotation tends to force
the metal facing of the explosive away from the centerline of the round
when it detonates, so the warhead can't form the jet properly -- the
penetration goes _way_ down.


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maniac%garnet.Berkeley.EDU@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (George W. Herbert) (05/03/89)

From: maniac%garnet.Berkeley.EDU@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (George W. Herbert)

In article <6155@cbnews.ATT.COM> henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes:
>>My dad has a question: Why do modern tanks use a smooth bore barrel
>>on their guns? Doesn't that hurt accuracy?
>The shells are generally fin-stabilized, which gets back a lot of the
>accuracy.  Not all, last I heard, but a lot.  Smoothbore guns have a

Last I heard, anything from 20mm up was much MORE accurate in DSFS than
solid, rotating shot.  Especially since the wind and ballistic coeficients
go through the roof with such rounds.

DSFS: Discarding Sabot Fin Stabilized.  Generally seen as 'APFSDS' or variant,
this refers to the mechanism of mounting a very small diameter rod  with
fins on the back inside a carrier shell of aluminum or similar light material,
which falls away after the round leaves the barrel of the gun.
This gives a larger barrel, with lower pressure (or higher energy) than the 
straight rod size, and fin-stabilization for accuracy.  The rod is often a
Tungsten or Uranium (depleted, NOT radioactive) cored steel rod, those         
materials giving much higher shot density and energy.