[sci.military] request for info - Ralph Talbot

zcnj01@uunet.UU.NET (Cecil N. Jones) (04/29/89)

From: apctrc!gpb6!zcnj01@uunet.UU.NET (Cecil N. Jones)


I am looking for information on a US Destroyer, the Ralph Talbot.
My father-in-law served on it in WWII in the Pacific.  I would
like to locate any books/photos, etc. about it's missions, dates,
places, captains, crew lists, etc.  Any help will be appreciated,
and if you can point me to any organization which might have this
kind of info, or where I can find info about crew re-unions, etc.

Thanks,


  Cecil N. Jones    Amoco Production Co.  Tulsa, OK
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mcgrath@nprdc.navy.mil (James McGrath) (05/05/89)

From: mcgrath@nprdc.navy.mil (James McGrath)

If you go to Washington, DC, visit the National Archives. 
In the military records division, you will be able to
obtain the log of the USS Ralph Talbot, which will give
you a full account of its activities, including various
actions related to individual members of the crew.

[mod.note:  This will also apply, of course, to today's request for
info on the USS Edwards. - Bill ]

Now I have a question:  I was a seaman on a liberty ship
during WW II and I'm writing a memoir of some of my experiences.
The shipping company that owned the vessel has long since gone
out of business.  Does anybody know how I might obtain access
to the log of that ship?

howard@cos.com (Howard C. Berkowitz) (05/06/89)

From: howard@cos.com (Howard C. Berkowitz)

[Several people have asked about getting records on WWII Navy ships]

In article <6274@cbnews.ATT.COM>, mcgrath@nprdc.navy.mil (James McGrath) writes:
> From: mcgrath@nprdc.navy.mil (James McGrath)
> 
> If you go to Washington, DC, visit the National Archives. 
> In the military records division, you will be able to
> obtain the log of the USS Ralph Talbot, which will give
> you a full account of its activities, including various
> actions related to individual members of the crew.
> 
> [mod.note:  This will also apply, of course, to today's request for
> info on the USS Edwards. - Bill ]

     I have gotten after-action reports (wasn't looking on
     for logs) on WWII USN ships at the Navy Operational
     Archives at the Washington Navy Yard.  Dean Allard
     was the director a number of years back; don't know
     if he still is.

     This is an activity of the Chief of Naval History,
     not the National Archives, which is under the
     General Services Adminstration.  Much of the National
     Archives WWII records are in their Suitland, Maryland
     annex; it's worth checking before making a trip.
     I have used the Joint Chiefs of Staff files at
     the main National Archives downtown. 

     I found the official records rather tantalizing --
     if one ever wants to see a totally fouled up example
     of fouled up tactical C3, read the after-action reports
     of the Battle of Rennell Island (last naval action
     of the Guadalcanal campaign).  I was researching 
     some stories of Commodore Ben Wyatt, a friend's
     grandfather, who had the escort carrier unit supporting
     the cruiser group under RADM Ike Giffen.  Giffen felt
     the Japanese threat was submarine, not air, and left
     Wyatt's unit at extreme range -- and got jumped by
     Japanese aircraft.  Wyatt's aircraft had 5-10 minutes
     CAP time over the task force, and could only communicate
     with the cruisers by dropping messages on their decks.

     From the after-action reports, Wyatt seemed to have
     protested being left behind, and gave decent air cover
     given the range.  Yet, his career seemed to stop after
     this battle, and he had essentially service force 
     assignments after that.  Giffen rose considerably.
     My friend wonders what happened -- was Wyatt the scapegoat
     for Rennell Island?  Did he slug Giffen (which she considers
     not beyond possibility)?  

     Haven't found out anything else about the aftermath of 
     this action.  Anyone know anything?
> 
> Now I have a question:  I was a seaman on a liberty ship
> during WW II and I'm writing a memoir of some of my experiences.
> The shipping company that owned the vessel has long since gone
> out of business.  Does anybody know how I might obtain access
> to the log of that ship?

      Just as a guess, I'd track down the Coast Guard historian
      and start asking there.  The modern military people at
      the Navy and National Archives have been exceptionally
      helpful whenever I've worked with them -- calls might
      be fruitful.  Again, names may be dated, but John Taylor
      was one of the superstars at the National Archives.
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